The Wrestling 9 Deuce – September 4 & 5, 2017 – The Ric Flair Always Kicks Out Edition

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Back to back solid RAW’s?  Has Hell frozen over?  Did our protest really make a difference?  Vince McMahon returning to our screens to do an angle with a guy who looks like Kevin Owens?  Yes is the answer to all of those questions.  It’s a good week.  Not only that, but on this week’s Are You Not Kentertained we did our first top ten list, and it was pretty solid.  Yeah, we’re feeling the GLOW.

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The 9

  1. Better match: Cena vs Jordan or Jeff vs Miz?

Russ:  I thought both were good matches, but I’m going to have to say that Jeff vs Miz was the better match.  In Cena vs Jordan I liked how they made the connection back to how Cena wanted to take out his “ruthless aggression” out on Jordan’s “father” 15 or so years ago and now it was Jordan being the scrappy newbie.  In all honesty I thought Jordan did a pretty good job against Cena. It was just unfortunate that the end result was so predictable. On the other side Jeff vs Miz was very entertaining as well.  Miz and Jeff have some pretty good chemistry and the use of Matt and the Miztourage was done well.  Again the ending was a bit predictable, but this one had a few near falls that I thought felt more exciting.  Cena vs Jordan:  4.8 and Jeff vs Miz: 5  

Keri:  I’m going to be different and go with Cena vs. Jordan. Yes, the ending was predictable. However, everything leading up to that ending was damn good. Cena did a great job of making Jordan look really good in this match. And in turn, Jordan got to show off the skill set that we knew he had but kinda forgot he had after weeks of bad matches. The Miz and Hardy match was ok but nothing really exciting for me. It seemed like the typical Miz vs anyone match.

Kent:  Miz vs Jeff was more entertaining to me.  I do want to give Jordan props for the rolling Northern Lights Suplex maneuver.  Both were good TV match I felt.  This is something that appears to be a recurring thing, which is great to me. Look at me starting off with positivity.

  1.   Emma is now in the Women’s title match at No Mercy!!!  So is Nia.  Emma has yet another new song.  Nobody has had more theme songs that Emma this calendar year.  Does the 4 way match interest you more than a simple one on one between Alexa and Sasha?

Russ:   As soon as I saw Emma get the pin on The Boss I wanted to text Kent and let him know about how much he would love this women’s match.  I thought better of it because I knew he wouldn’t be watching it in real time (only schmucks do that.)  This 4-way match is much more interesting to me than the original plan.  Emma is getting a mild push here and she has been taking the ball and running with it.  Nia has just gotten better and better in the ring and out.  Adding these two to the match can only enhance the match. Also, it provides an easy out for Alexa to pin someone that isn’t named Sasha.  This match went from I’ll watch it because it is on my screen but don’t expect me to pay attention to it to mild interest where I’ll pay attention for a little bit until I start playing a video game.  I know it doesn’t seem like it, but that is a big jump up in standards.  

Keri:  I like the idea of the fatal four way match. It’s about time that Emma got a chance to do, well anything. I would like to see something come out of her involvement in this match. Perhaps, a feud for the belt? If not, Nia is a good second choice for me. She has done extremely well over the past few months. I wouldn’t be mad at a Nia title run in the future. Basically what I’m saying is I’m firmly in the anyone but Sasha camp. And before you say anything, I like Sasha but there are others that deserve the opportunity before she gets one again.

Kent:  Emma has had 4 songs this year.  She had her original, Emmalina, last week’s, and this week’s.  She is awesome, and I am so happy for her right now.  I wish there was a way that Mickie and Alicia could be working with  Dana.  Dana needs it so badly.  I am super excited for the 4 way match in all honesty.  I don’t want Nia to win, and I don’t want to get my hopes up, but what if……what if Emma pulled it off.  Hello goosebumps.

  1.   With Enzo officially a member of 205, who benefits more: Enzo or the 205 division and show?

Russ:   Well, right now I would say it benefits Enzo.  Mainly because it may actually get him back into the locker room.  On a serious note, he can now showcase not just his big mouth, but also how good he is in the ring against guys more his size.  This will be better seen once he gets his inevitable match against Neville in the coming weeks. If he can put on a good match against Neville then we may just see good things in store for Enzo and 205.  

Keri:  Kent is going to yell at me for this but I’m going to go with both with Enzo getting a slight edge. Enzo moving to the cruiserweight division ultimately benefits him because he is still employed. Lets all think about what would have happened if Cass didn’t get injured. He would eventually be released and we would see him on GFW at some point. This move also benefits the division because now there is someone in the division who is over with the fans. Lets face it before Enzo moved over to 205, who was the only 205’ers that were over with the fans? I’ll wait a minute while you come up with an answer that is not Neville or Aries. Yeah, that’s what I thought. None of the guys in the division other than those two individuals are over with the fans. Granted they haven’t been given time to get over but still it just seemed like something was lacking with that group. Is Enzo the answer though? Not sure but right now it’s a good temporary solution.

Kent:  I have gone back and forth on my answer.  Let’s make this clear, this is a question where we won’t know the answer for another 3 months realistically.  We have to really ask some questions.  Would Enzo have continued getting screen time had they not made this movie?  If yes, against who?  On the other hand, 205 wasn’t getting much time on RAW, and although the time may have not improved much, it feels way more watchable now.  I think the answer is Enzo..Also, Enzo’s finisher is delightful.

  1.   RAW showcased it’s tag team division.  Which tag team raised it’s stock the most on this Monday’s edition of RAW?

Russ:   Gallows and Anderson showed us that they are still contenders.  Sure they lost their match, but they put on a good match.  Also, after the match they gave Sheasaro what for.  I really like how they are portraying the Tag division lately.  It is less Heel vs Face and more about the actual title and all the teams wanting it.  That is the way a division should be.  

Keri:  I’m going to say Gallows and Anderson. They showed Monday night that they are still contenders and should be taken seriously by Creative. So, Creative, your move?

Kent:  While Sheasaro looked great, they were worth something, a known quantity.  Ginger Rhynos on the other hand, they proved to us that they were still in business.  They were penny stock, at best.  We weren’t sure if the company had gone under.  Now we know that they didn’t close down shop.  Yes they jobbed, but I feel their stock theoretically increased the most.

  1.  Who cut the better promo: Big Show or referee John Cone?  Also, talk about the match because it was really good.

Russ:  Who was Big Show looking at when he was talking to Braun?  Cause he sure as hell wasn’t looking at us in the camera.  It looked like he was giving an inspirational speech in a movie.  Go ahead watch it again it’s kind of weird.  As for the match.  Holy crap!  I have to say that Braun is a great performer.  Seriously, when was the last time he was in a bad match?  I’ve seen Big Show in a lot of matches most of which I can say have severely underperformed in the entertaining department.  Yet the past two matches he has had with Braun have both just been fantastic!

Keri:  I didn’t see either promo so I can’t comment on it. However, I did see the match. And it was an awesome match. Both guys really do get the best out of the other. There were so many good aspects to this match. Show’s elbow off the top rope and the post match Braun opening the cage with Big Show were my moments of the match. I would like to see these two wrestle again before Big Show retires in a few months.

Kent:  While John’s promo surprised me, I haven’t heard Big Show that hype in awhile.  Has he been hanging out with Mojo?  Great match!  Seriously, these 2 guys know how to tell a story in the ring.  Shame to know that Big Show won’t be around for much longer.  It’s the veteran’s jobs in the locker room to pass along the knowledge that they have gained.  Big Show got to learn from Hulk, Macho Man, Taker, Austin, Foley and Flair just to name a few.  Braun clearly has a mind for the business and is being allowed to run with.  Now, more than ever, am I upset that Braun didn’t get to face Taker at Mania.  

  1.  Does Vince’s involvement in this KO and Shane feud actually make this more compelling for you as a viewer?

Russ:  I was already in favor of this feud.  Adding Vince can only make it more interesting.  I just can’t wait to see how hypocritical he will be in all of this.  If you remember way back in the attitude days he would have lost his company for the things he did.  He would attack his employees, sexually harass his employees (that includes the men too, I mean how else would you classify the Kiss My Ass Club?)  So this should be a great round of WWE Logic coming our way.  If it didn’t happen in the past month…you aren’t supposed to remember it.  

Keri:  It does add another level to what was becoming, what I feel was an already stale storyline. And I’m curious to see what this additional level does for this storyline. So, I guess I’m intrigued by this development especially since it is Vince.

Kent:  Yeah, it is actually one of the best things that could happen, unless they want to involve Sami more.  Let’s face it, we should be excited any time that Vince makes an appearance at this point, so yes, it will have my full attention.

  1.  Is the Carmella and Ellsworth thing going to all be a big ruse, or is it the beginning of the break up of the century?

Russ:  I don’t think it is a ruse because in the end Carmella told him that they are going to be doing things her way from then on.  She then proceeded to kiss and slap him.  So to me it seems like they are already back together.  

Keri:  This is all a big ruse. I mean think about it. What better way to catch everyone off guard than by staging a fake breakup. Carmellsworth is smart and they are using something I like to call strategery.

Kent:  Big Ruse for the girl of Big Cass.  And you can’t teach that.  If they break up, I will be sad.  At least for another month or two.  Carmella cut a hell of a promo by the way.  She has come so far.  Major props to a girl that most of my readers think isn’t that good or important.  Well, you people are foolish.  Oh, you disagree?  Then leave a comment.  Don’t be a little whiny bitch.  Step up and tell me just how wrong I am.

  1.  Baron Corbin has had an odd month.  Do you think that he is still in the doghouse?  Also, is Sami in the doghouse?  Is Dolph Ziggler there as well?

Russ:  Baron is still probably in the doghouse, but I think the worst is over for him.  He went through an embarassing couple of weeks and now seems to be righting the ship.  It does seem like he is on his way to working with AJ Styles and any time you can work with someone like him can’t be all that bad.  As for Sami, I’m not so sure about him.  I don’t think he is in the doghouse.  I just think they don’t have a good direction for him.  Or maybe the best of both worlds he is going to be starting a program with Aiden English!  Aiden is awesome I really hope he can make the jump to singles mid-card guy.  He is one of those guys who deserves it.  As for Dolph.  Dolph is where he always is…In obscurity.  

Keri:  I wouldn’t say Dolph or Sami are in the doghouse. I just think that Creative has nothing much for them right now. As for Corbin, well he may have deserved some of what is happening to him right now if the latest rumors are to be believed. We all have a right to our opinion on stuff at work but we also need to maintain a certain level of professionalism at the same time. I think someone forgot to tell that to Corbin.

Kent:  I’ll tell you who is not in the doghouse, Aiden English.  I am so happy for him.  Baron is treading water but he can step outside of the doghouse at least now.  I don’t foresee him beating AJ Styles, but a good effort series of matches could do wonders for him.  I just don’t feel the energy and potential flowing through him at the moment.  Even scarier is Sami Zayn’s place in the company.  He is not being given a chance to do much and they build him up just to get others over, but because he is never officially put over big time for a stretch of time, he’s not able to get others over as big as he could be.  As for Dolph, poor, poor Dolph.  

  1.  Did the Randy vs Shinsuke match provide all the final proof that you needed to know that Jinder shouldn’t be a world champion anymore?

Russ:  So both Shinsuke and Randy went up against Jinder.  Randy’s matches against Jinder were uninspired boring pieces of garbage.  Shinsuke’s match against Jinder wasn’t bad it was just boring.  Then Randy went up against Shinsuke for a number 1 contenders match and holy cow, what a fantastic match.  So the only remaining variable is Jinder.  He just isn’t that good.  I’ll give him a little credit his promo’s are coming along and I’m glad he is starting to move away from the I’m a foreigner so I’m a heel stuff, but he is still far far far off in the ring.  I’m going to give him to Hell in the Cell.  If by then he doesn’t have at least a decent fun match by then I’m calling his championship run a complete disaster.  

Keri:  I’ve been saying for months that the Jinder experiment has been a flop. So, the answer to your question is yes. With that said, both guys put on a really good match and showed that it is Jinder and not them. I think it’s time someone, anyone, hinders the Jinder.

Kent:  Yeah.  We saw that when Randy or Shinsuke have somebody competent to work with, either can have a really good match.  Name the last time that you saw a really good Jinder match.  Oh, you can’t?  Yeah, that’s a problem.  Guys who can’t wrestle above average matches should never get the belt unless they have an absolute can’t miss gimmick, and even then, it should be a month or less for the title reign.  I’d rather Randy get the belt back than for Jinder to keep it.  That’s where we are at.

 

Bonus Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  Good: The matches.  A lot of good matches throughout the night kept things interesting and fun.  Story Development: The major feuds got a big push in story as well and everything actually seemed to make sense.  The bad:  It is still a 3 hour show.  Rating:  8 best Raw I think I’ve seen all year.  If they can keep this formula going for a little while it would really increase my joy of wrestling.  

Keri:  As our readers know, I have a tendency to fall asleep during RAW and usually I’m not mad about it. I’m actually mad I missed this one. What a RAW to miss. Good matches and work by Creative. It’s almost Twilight Zoney. Which means this will return to normal next week and I’ll be sad again. Rating: 7

Kent:  7.5  It was a very well put together episode with several good matches, better than PPV’s as far as matches go.  The stories made sense.  Best RAW of the year perhaps from top to bottom.

  1.  Rate Smackdown

Russ:  I enjoyed the night.  I liked all the KO and Shane business that was going on.  As a father I understood where Shane was coming from when he attacked KO so I could relate to this.  I am curious to see where they are going with Carmella and Ellsworth.  I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Natty looks like she belongs as champion and kudos to her for looking and acting the part.  Finally,  really enjoyed the Main Event those two can definitely wrestle again and I’ll pay more attention to it.  Rating:  6

Keri:  It was a decent show. It just felt like something was lacking for me. As i said last week, what happened to the Smackdown of last year? Sigh. Rating: 4

Kent:  It wasn’t bad.  Everything was fine for what it was.  It only had one really good match though, as far as I’m concerned.  It was more story driven.  I felt like things progressed positively though.  Nothing I would go out of my way to rewatch, but from top to bottom, solid night.  5.0

 

Final Thoughts

Russ:  It was a fantastic week of wrestling.  I don’t know if is something they can keep up, probably not, but I’d like it if they at least tried.  I’m just glad that it didn’t suck because there is nothing else on TV right now.  I miss you Game of Thrones.  

Keri:  I think this is finally the week that I’m glad I came back to the blog. It was a good week and I was able to be positive for a chance. It was very refreshing but I fully expect things to go back

to normal next week. Also, go check out the Mae Young Classic if you haven’t already. You will be glad you did. Trust me.

Kent:  I am simply enjoying the break in between PPV’s right now.  Like, this is how wrestling should be, not every 2 weeks, a new PPV.  This is a comfortable pace for me.

 

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