The Wrestling 9 Deuce – October 16 & 17, 2017 – Kane Returns!

We had the TLC go home show on RAW, which gave us the return of Kane.  Bray is still MIA, as is Bo, Nia, and Neville.  We saw a lot of cruiserweight and women’s action this week as well.  Over on Smackdown, we saw KO and Sami grow together and rip on Daniel Bryan, Jinder challenge Brock Lesnar to a match at Survivor Series, a lot of backstage or pre-taped tag team segments, 4 to be exact, and Dolph touching Bobby’s butt.  We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained which you can also subscribe to on iTunes, and give our picks for TLC.

 

The 9

  1. Wow, RAW ran 2 different Cruiserweight storylines in the same night.  I know, I know.  I checked and Hell did not freeze over.  Which story has your interest: Cedric & Rich  vs THE Brian Kendrick & Gentleman Jack or Enzo and his posse vs Kalisto and Mustafa Ali?

Russ:  I am as shocked as the question! How did RAW find enough time to give us two Cruiserweight stories! I mean they only have three hours.  They have to show the shield for at least two of those that doesn’t leave much time.  Anyway,  I’m more interested Cedric & Rich vs THE Brian Kendrick & Gentleman Jack.  I really like this new Jack.  His viciousness is fantastic and I just like to watch him wrestle.  Plus anytime THE Brian Kendrick gets a story I want to see where they are going with it.  Not to mention Cedric & Rich are a lot of fun to watch in the ring too.

Keri: Wow, I take a week off and they give me two Cruiserweight storylines. Way to try to win me back WWE. I’m still kind of mad at you. With that said, I’m loving Heel Jack Gallagher so I have to say I’m leaning towards that storyline has my fave. I mean come on the guy wrestles in a vest and looks good doing it. Also, I think The Brian Kendrick should see more screentime. He is largely underutilized. I’m already bored with Enzo and Kalisto so I can’t muster any more energy to say anything else regarding that storyline.

Kent:  The moment that they put the belt back on Enzo, especially with Neville gone, and when they explain why those 4 guys are helping Enzo after wanting to hut him 2 weeks ago, then I may be able to understand things better.  Until then, I’m going with a simple feud that makes sense and has legit in ring talent.

  1.   What’s the bigger surprise: Kane’s return, Curtis trying to take on Roman, or the fact that WWE is going to put the Shield over all 5 members of Miz’s team?

Russ:   I was pleasantly surprised to see that Kane pop up from under the ring.  That is one of my all time favorite ways for Kane to appear.  Is it really a surprise, at this point,  that WWE is going to embarrass 4 ultra talented individuals and Kane just so they can make a few bucks?  Still I’ll mourn The Miz, Braun, and Sheasaro’s careers.   

Keri:  Again, I take a week off and Kane comes back. Now I’m even more confused. I thought he was running for office or something. Well I guess what better way to get people to vote for you then scaring them into voting for you. Either that or the wow our mayor is a total badass vote. I’m sure his campaign staff would prefer either as long as people vote for him. As for the other options, all I have to say is meh. However, I did mark out when I saw the old Shield entrance this week.  I’m looking forward to them burying everyone this weekend. Oh come on, you know it’s going to happen. Don’t fight it. It will hurt less if you don’t.

Kent:  Kane’s return, obviously.  WWE clearly isn’t serious about making Braun a star or Miz a star or Sheasaro a star.  Bonus question time.  Name the last PPV match that Braun actually won. Yeah.  Kane coming up from under the ring will always be the correct choice.

  1.  So TLC has 3 women’s matches, 2 Cruiserweight matches, Finn vs Bray (possibly), and the TLC main event.  How is it that Elias, Gallows & Anderson, Jason Jordan, Matt Hardy, and Titus Worldwide are left off of this beyond mediocre card?

Russ:   On paper this PPV looks like my career as a podcaster.  Mediocre at best.   I’m hoping they make the Emma vs Asuka match an actual match.  If they do then that match will be good.  Also, The TLC match will deliver.  At least one of the cruiserweight matches should be good.  After that though, things get murky. I love Mickie and Alexa, but I’m not sure how good this match will be.  Bray (Sister Abigail) vs Finn may not even happen that will be a game day decision.  I don’t understand why Elias doesn’t have a scheduled match yet.  He has been doing a great job on RAW which should have a payoff that is pre-scheduled for a PPV.  I’m sure some of these guys will have a match on the kickoff show, but damned if I’ll know before Saturday.  

Keri:  I’m confused. There is a PPV this weekend? You could have fooled me given the lack of match announcements on Monday’s RAW. Oh well. The card looks pretty bleak right now which isn’t a bad thing since I probably will not have time to watch it anyways. With that said, since the card isn’t finalized, Elias and company probably have a match this Sunday. Which leads me to one question. When did Jason Jordan join Titus Worldwide? Again week off and now I have questions.  I’m so confused and may need an adult.

Kent:  In a night where they could really use some small filler matches, the WWE says fuck conventional wisdom or common sense.  I’m left wondering about how Nia Jax and Bayley got left out.  Let’s acknowledge some facts.  Alicia Fox only gets pushed for a short term in order for her to job to a face that needs a push (Asuka).  Replace Alicia’s name with Emma and the same thing.  SO 2 matches are taking place to get Asuka over, which isn’t stupid, but it’s predictable as fuck.  Mickie is a legit all timer for women, so she is helping Alexa stay relevant for awhile longer, probably the rest of the year if they want, and I hope that they do.  I’d love for Mickie to win it and then Alexa win it back in the blow off match.  Alexa vs Asuka better be at Mania…..so expect it within a month. I’m happy for the Cruiserweights.  The issue is that they shoved all of the main event level guys into 2 matches, and that’s if you consider Finn and Bray main event caliber, which I do, well at least for Bray.  Joe is still out I guess, and Brock is doing Brock things and Cena is doing Cena things.  Wow, this roster really appears thin at the moment, and that’s because everything is on pause to get the Shield over…again.  The tag division is a mess at the moment, and so is the Red Belt situation.  Hell, the IC belt is a mess for all intents and purposes.  When was the last time the Miz had a meaningful feud for the belt?  Last year with Dolph?  Yeah, thought so.  The WWE booked themselves in so many corners, and now they reap what they sow.  I can’t wait for Sunday…..so I can watch the Walking Dead.

  1.   Let’s vent about WWE “only” having the one TLC match for Sunday while not having other Tables, Ladders, or Chairs matches.

Russ:   Yeah as if this PPV wasn’t mediocre enough it doesn’t help that they didn’t book the traditional Tables/ Ladder / Chairs matches that lead up to the TLC match.  I’m not sure who really fucked up this PPV, but man WWE you can’t have TLC without the T, L, and C matches.  How hard would it have been to just assign some of these boring matches the stipulations.  It would have made this PPV more interesting.  I know they tend to suck, but I could have been down for Sasha vs Alicia Chair match.

Keri:  Honestly, I’m ok with the current set up. Yes there could be more gimmick matches. But honestly how many combinations of tables, ladders and chairs can one possibly come up with for a PPV before the audience gets bored. I’m asking on behalf of Creative.

Kent:  Beyond anything else wrong with this PPV, this is the #1 thing that is pissing me off.  All this would have taken was a modicum of common sense to do this.  First we must ask, what matches could use the stipulations best.  The main event is TLC.  Finn vs Bray is it’s own clusterfuck, no need for anything beyond a House of Whooooores.  Asuka vs Emma is an attraction unto itself.  There, I just eliminated 3 out of the 7 planned matches.  So when Alicia attacks Sasha backstage, she uses a chair.  Boom, now we have a chairs match.  When the guys were beating up Kalisto and Mustafa Ali, do a spot where they put them through a table to enhance the beatdown and you have a tables match.  Mickie could said that Alexa wouldn’t be brave enough to put her belt on the line in a ladder match and Alexa is like, I will break your old ass.  So everything I just said could have happened on RAW or last week in Mickie and Alexa’s case.  All of a sudden, that card has some intrigue.  These fucking clowns writing for WWE are dense as fuck.  Hire me WWE.  I will make you great once more.  I refuse to say again because I’m not on Twitter half of my awake hours, nor do I have a fake ass tan.  Put Hogan back in the Hall Of Fame!

  1.  Who is worse on the mic: Roman Reigns, Finn Balor, or Shinsuke Nakamura?

Russ:  Finn is very boring on the mic.  It’s not that he is bad, necessarily, he just doesn’t deliver a very exciting promo.  However, this week the WWE did something that I’m not sure whether I think is completely asinine, or used correctly, brilliant.  I’m talking about the CG paint on Finn’s face so he could be the demon without having to use the makeup.  I was left dumbfounded by what I had just seen.  I knew that I couldn’t ever unsee it either.  If you read last week I stated that I was ok with a stupid story as long as it was fun.  Well this story has taken a turn to stupid and dumb.  That’s not a good combination.  

Keri:  I’m not going to say Shinsuke. The guy is still trying to learn English so it’s not fair to judge him right now. I mean he has only been with the company for over a year and most of that time was in NXT where the focus is more on wrestling than mic skills. With that said, the same kinda goes Finn but he’s been on the main roster long enough where that is starting to be not an excuse. I enjoy watching him (and those abs) in the ring.  But when he picks up a mic. well, I cringe. So, I have to go with Finn. He just isn’t improving and that’s bad if he wants to move up. As for Roman, leave the chosen one alone, he has gotten better and temporarily has Rollins and Ambrose to help him.

Kent:  I refuse to say Shinsuke because even when he talks, I listen and I enjoy listening to him.  He knows his limitations but tries like hell.  I get why he is the right answer, but I like him.  So now we are left with a guy who rarely gets a chance to shine on the mic, and really only looked halfway decent when going opposite Cena and Miz, 2 of the few guys that make anybody stand out in some capacity.  I think Roman could be above average if given the opportunity.  I think he’s actually kind of a cool dude that I would enjoy.   Then there is Finn.  Name one time that Finn has been good on the mic.  Oh, you can’t?  The Miz couldn’t get anything, Bray could, Paul Heyman couldn’t.  Finn is sadly the answer, and I don’t know if it’s him or the bad writing.  I think it is both.  I kinda feel bad for him, but he is held in such high regard, I struggle with empathy.

  1.  How great of an idea is it to have Jinder challenge Brock Lesnar?

Russ:  This idea is actually great from a WWE fans perspective.  Not in terms of match quality.  No, that is going to be total shit.  I mean that at least for one month Jinder and Brock won’t destroy a good wrestlers career.  If they are facing each other then we don’t have to worry about them wasting Shinsuke’s or AJ’s or Samoa Joe’s or Braun’s time in a match we know they have no right to win.  That’s fantastic!  Sure it means they will keep the belts for another month, but the belts have become so meaningless that who the hell cares at this point.  I will say that this match is going to be bad for business.  If Jinder wins then it completely ruins the build up they have been working toward since Mania for Brock vs Roman.  Also, if Brock wins then Jinder will be proven to be the unworthy garbage champion that we all know he already is.  So, yea the match is going to suck, but at least they won’t ruin good wrestlers careers.  

Keri:  This match is going to be bad and Creative should feel bad. You know what I’m not watching at Survivors Series. Yep, you got it. This match.  It’s going to be short and underwhelming and I have better things to do with my time. Like sleep.  

Kent:  Well, I mean, good for Jinder to somehow be in position to get this match.  I honestly never thought that Jinder would be able to have this match.  Yeah, it’s going to be a burial.  WWE has to show how much better RAW is to Smackdown, but that has always been the case.  Just think of all the bumps that the SIngh Bros will be taking.

  1.  We’ve seen Baron have great matches with Kalisto and on Tuesday, he wrestled Sin Cara briefly.  Do you think that this is a solid matchup for Baron and even Sin Cara?

Russ:  I’ll see where this matchup takes us.  Baron vs Kalisto was fantastic this time last year.  I think they are hoping lightning will strike twice here.  I can see it happening.  Baron is good against smaller opponents and Sin Cara can do his gymnastics routine and get thrown around like a rag doll well.  So this seems like it could be a winning combination for a short feud.  

Keri:  This matchup intrigues me. It should work really well since Sin Cara is a luchador and Baron does really well for some reason with luchadors. Alright, I’ll just say it. This should be really good and I will enjoy watching it.

Kent:  Unlike certain people, I am beyond sold for this.  Both men like to hit hard and are very physical.  On top of that, Sin Cara can bring some speed and high flying that Baron really works well with.  I think this could be a very solid feud, if they continue it.  It has more potential than most would perceive.  Or you could be a pussy and take the wait and see approach because god forbid you make a bad prediction in this blog.

  1.  Bobby Roode has now lost.  The big story is about pulling the tights.  Is this working for you as almost a heel vs heel dynamic, or is Bobby still too much of a face for this feud to click properly?

Russ:  The glorious gimmick is not meant to be a face one.  It is supposed to be about an obnoxious person who thinks they are above it all and they consistently prove that point in the ring.  So this isn’t really working for me.  I’m a huge Roode fan but I want the “Glorious” one to be that same uisufferable ass hole that deep down we all love.  Not this kind of lame face that we are getting.  If they want to make this work then Bobby needs to have an above average match.  He has yet to have one of those in WWE.  Give him and Dolph some time and I think we may see that, but I doubt WWE will give them what they need.  

Keri:  I guess it’s working. Given the loss though, is there really any reason to continue this feud. Ziggler’s point has kinda been made, hasn’t it?

Kent:  The moment somebody can explain to me how pulling the tights gives you additional leverage to get the pin, I will be more intrigued.  I’m waiting.

  1.  We had the KO & Sami stuff with Daniel, Randy, & Shinsuke, the Pulp Fashion, the women’s match, The Uso’s with American Beta, Rusev & Aiden with New Day, and even another Bludgeon Brothers promo.  Pick a topic, discuss it.  Just don’t pick a topic that somebody else has chosen.

Russ:  I am digging American Beta.  I think Gable is proving just how stupid the WWE creative can be.  We all thought that they would use Gable as the illegitimate son of Kurt because it made a lot of sense.  Not to mention that he is charismatic and could cut a decent promo.  Instead WWE creative went with Jason Jordan because it was a “funny” knock on Kurt.  Hilarious!  Except now that the joke has worn off Jason Jordan is fucked.  He isn’t getting over with the crowds and the “Angle” is dead.  So now Gable is getting his chance again and he is just fun to watch.  His promo with The Uso’s was fantastic.  He was all over the place and his excitement is infectious.  I am excited to see how this feud unfolds.  

Keri:  To the surprise of no one, maybe other than Kent given his comments below, I’m going to talk Fashion Files, I mean Pulp Fashion. That segment, while not as funny as the Elias and the Good Brothers segment this week, was well worth the wait. I like the Ascension in their current role. They show that they are not just scary looking but have a comedic side to them. As for Breezedango, both guys just nail it week after week. And with that I close by saying Fashion Files 4 assemble.

Kent:  As much as I want to choose the dynamic between Rusev and Aiden, I want to tackle the women.  Sorry Keri.  I think WWE needs to open their damn eyes sooner than later and put the focus back on Becky Lynch, first and foremost, as the face of that division.  She is punny, yes, but is decent on the mic, and very good in ring.  Carmella is still lurking.  I think it would make sense for Becky to take the belt off of Natty and then have the cash in.  That would really help.

Bonus Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  For a go home show this was one of the better ones this year.  Remember this year has been total crap for go home shows so to say this was one of the better ones is not a compliment really.  I enjoyed several things about this show.  The Tag Championship match was lots of fun.  Elias, Gallows, and Anderson were great with their promo.  Finally, when Kane came up through the ring I was very happy for a few moments anyway.  Rating: 5.8

Keri:  I thought this was a good RAW. Not exactly the best build for this weekend’s PPV but still I enjoyed what I did watch live and what I saw in recap videos. RAW is starting to improve week over week in terms of quality. Also, I just have to say again, yea Shield! It was nice to see my boys back together again with the same outfit and the same entrance. Yes, my name is Keri and I am a Shield mark. Deal with it. Rating: 6

Kent:  This was the go home show.  This was okay.  It got over all of the feuds, so I think that is good.  I mean Finn was screwed without Bray this week, so that’s nobody’s fault, so I am not holding that against them. I really loved Elias and G & A.  That song was amazing.  I thought the reveal of Kane was actually shocking.  There are a lot of aspects that I would rewatch.  The women’s matches worked, the Fisters vs Sheasaro was good if not entirely predictable.  Roman vs Braun was fun, more of a sideshow but fun.  I will say 5.3.

  1.  Rate Smackdown

Russ:  Smackdown was ok.  I really enjoyed Sami coming out and just brutally destroying Daniel firmly pushing him into the heel zone.  Sami is a great heel so far and I hope they continue this push.  Fashion Files was ok.  It wasn’t their best work, but it had its moments.  The women’s division is awful right now and I’m definitely interested in seeing Gable and Shelton take on The Uso’s.  Rating: 5.3

Keri:  Remember when Smackdown was must see TV. Yeah those were good times which is why I bring it up every week. The only redeeming features for this week’s show were KO and Sami and Pulp Fashion. Rating: 2

Kent:  I know that Smackdown happened.  I know that I didn’t hate it.  I actually paid attention to all things not named Charlotte.  I liked it more than I enjoyed this hackneyed Shield bullshit, that’s for fucking sure.  5.8

 

Final Thoughts

 

Russ:  Rating Smackdown and RAW has become difficult.  This year has just been so bland that now just a mediocre show has become, what feels like better than average.  For example:  as I was rating Smackdown this week I gave it a 5.3, which is decent.  However, in years past I don’t think this episode would have earned a 4.  It had its moments, but for the most part I was pretty bored.  Still for this year it seemed more than adequate.  Come on WWE Step up your game!  

Keri:  Did I mention how happy I am that the Shield is back together? Ok good, because I’m so happy the Shield are back together.

Kent:  Well I was going to start writing wrestling porn scenes.  I don’t know if that’s necessarily appropriate for what we do.  Just know that if I do, my first scene would involve a UN PC convention in which Lana would be the Russian ambassador and Rusev would be the Bulgarian representative.  At the hotel where they would be staying, mid shower, Rusev’s shower would stop working.  Wet and soapy, he wraps himself in a towel and knocks on his neighbor’s door.  Just at that moment, Lana has stripped and just turned on her shower.  She answers the door wrapped in nothing but her towel.  When she hears of this sexy man’s plight, she offers to share her shower, and then we learn that PC may not stand for Politically Correct, but rather Pussy CRUSH!  Admit it, you are ashamed that you read this whole thing.  Also, here’s some zombie shit that WWE conveniently did days before The Walking Dead returns.

http://www.wwe.com/gallery/wwe-superstars-as-zombies-photos-2017#fid-40136066

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