Russ and Kent watched Survivor Series, or most of it and we are here to discuss the show in graphic detail. Still no Paige. I also found myself missing Ellsworth.
Pre Game Deuce (Or the matches that weren’t advertised)
- Elias defeated Matt Hardy
Russ: Didn’t know this was a match, didn’t care. I’ll take Kent’s word for this and not bother watching it. Rating N/A
Kent: Fat Hardy is fat. He has let himself go, yet again. I am not one that can criticize, but I can point it out. This wasn’t even a fun match and I love watching Elias. This was a dud. Aiden or Rusev instead of Hardy would have been much better.
Rating: 2.5 with all those points dedicated to Elias trying to carry this match the best that he could.
- SamiKO defeated Breezedango
Russ: Glad they gave Breezedango a match, but Kent is right! This should have been against a RAW team. I can’t believe SamiKO was relegated to an impromptu match on the Kickoff Show. I hope they get treated better over the next 5 months. Rating: 4. It was an adequate match, but with no story or reason for the match it did very little.
Kent: Why didn’t they go Gallows and Anderson vs SamiKO is beyond me. This match was given some time, but it wasn’t all that good. Probably the best of the kickoff show, but that doesn’t require much. SamiKO along with Breezedango deserve better booking.
- . 205 Championship Match – Enzo defeated Kalisto
Russ: Oh man, this was hot garbage. Kalisto doesn’t do it for me. He had one good match against Baron. The only reason that was good, I think, was because Baron could ragdoll him a bit. Well Enzo can’t do that because they are the same size. Also, with all the interbrand will they, won’t they put us #undersiege shit going on this month this match got lost in the shuffle. Please, PLEASE, have Enzo move on from Kalisto. Rating: 2.2
Kent: I tried to try to pay attention, but i just couldn’t. I honestly wasn’t into this match at all. I don’t enjoy Kalisto as a singles guy. Bring back Lucha Dragons, PLEASE. Enzo needs a better opponent with some technical skills.
- The Shield defeated New Day
Russ: Alright let’s get this out of the way. The end result was obvious. If you thought The New Day had a chance of winning this then you don’t know WWE. Overall this was a fun match. The New Day played the role of Heel, but never really utilized a lot of heel tactics. It was typical tag match in the beginning. The second half of the match really picked up the pace and a lot of fun sequences occurred. I love how the rules go out the door when the WWE needs them to. At least commentary did their best to try and cover this up. Loved some of the innovative finishers they did at the end. Overall I was satisfied with this opener. Rating: 5.8 On a side note I like how they are keeping score of the wins for the night.
Kent: The refereeing sucked so much in this match, and this would be a common theme throughout the night, unfortunately. The ref allowed both team, but especially the Shield too much time with 2 or 3 guys in the ring at the same time. Grow a pair ref and make them abide you! When the fuck did Seth get so lazy or bland in the ring? He was just good as a tag team with Dean, but if you notice, Dean has been the workhorse, but Seth used to be. It’s odd and I don’t like it. Seth is a great workhorse, but I don’t know if he ever fully came back from injury. It’s weird and sad. It’s sad to see how Dean’s arms have no definition and the shirt exemplifies that big time. This was a good match, and it was fun. It kept me engaged all match, but not always for positive things. Still, I can say that this may be rewatchable.
Rating: 5.1 Just to be safe as I could be coerced into rewatching, or I may never watch it again. Everybody tried at least.
- Women’s Traditional Survivor Series Match:: Team RAW (Asuka, Sasha, Alicia, Nia, & Bayley) defeated Team Smackdown (Natty, Tamina, Carmella, Naomi, & Becky)
Russ: Ok, Let me get this out of the way again. The end result was obvious. I wrote this before the match even started so let’s see how right I am with how this will end. I’m saying Asuka and Foxy team Raw. Well I was wrong about Foxy, though I wonder if her pin was a mistake. The way they eliminated Becky was horrible. She deserves a lot better. The battle of the Hosses was underwhelming. Tamina needs to learn how to wrestle. I guess the count out was one of the only ways to get Nia out without making her look weak. This match was mediocre at best. At least it wasn’t unwatchable. Rating: 4.1
Kent: Poor Becky Lynch and Bayley to a lesser extent. This match was insulting to both of them. I also was not fond of Natty’s ring gear, but am loving Carmella’s. Alicia looked great tonight, but I think the ref fucked up. That was not a 3 count and believe me when I was I immediately text Keri, Eric, and Twan about how it wasn’t a 3. Poor reffing again. Nia tried, but this wasn’t a very good outing for her, while Tamina shined some. Naomi was an afterthought as was Sasha to a certain degree. This was all about showcasing Asuka and having the Hoss Showdown. The effort was there, but wasn’t a good match. I was paying close attention, so my rating may be higher than it deserves.
Rating: 4.3 Because it kept me engaged.
- Baron Corbin defeated The Miz
Russ: This was a well told story in the ring, but it definitely wasn’t the match of the night. Both guys deserve a lot of credit. The lead up to this match was mostly done on Twitter. I don’t pay attention to Twitter so I missed a lot of this feuds build. Still these two have a decent chemistry in the ring. The only real negative I have about this match was the fact that The Miz worked on Baron’s leg and Baron sold it. For about 1 minute. It really should have played more into the match. Ending sequence was fast and fun. Rating: 5.4
Kent: Yup, I fucking nailed it. This was definitely the match of the night and both guys looked like stars doing it. Both guys played to their strengths. I am so proud of how far Baron has come, and he sold this match so much better than the supposedly superior Finn Balor. The Miz deserves another run as the World champ next year in my opinion. Everything about this worked, including Baron to tell a fan to shut up and sit down. This was a fine example of 2 guys figuring their shit out and putting together a well executed match with good psychology and a logical progression.
Rating: 6.8 I really enjoyed this one as you can tell.
- The Uso’s defeated Sheasaro
Russ: This was a really good match. I didn’t expect anything less. These two teams continue to prove why they are the two best tag teams in the WWE. The back and forth in this was great. The spots were well executed. Loved the last tag between Jimmy and Jay. It was a thing of beauty. The right team won this I think. Sheasaro didn’t need to win they just had to look good. This match definitely delivered that. Rating: 6.3
Kent: This was the second best match of the night, and I nailed that too. No, my arm doesn’t get sore patting myself on the back. They did what they were supposed to but I can’t say that it was better done than Miz and Baron. It was close. Some stuff looked a little sloppy and Cesaro looked like he hurt his head. I felt that he and possibly Sheamus were hampered by pain at various points in the match which hurt the pace a bit. It was still very good, but it could have been at least a point better, without a doubt.
Rating: 6.6 I liked it, but I could have loved it and so I can’t rate it higher.
- Female Flair defeated Alexa Bliss
Russ: I’m sure this match was adequate. I wouldn’t know because while I had it on I was most definitely playing video games. So I would look up every once in awhile. What I saw was standard stuff. There were a few moments of entertainment, this wasn’t a total trainwreck. I mean Little Miss Bliss is always great, but the way she was treated for the past month as an afterthought made this pretty easy to predict. I can’t wait to see what Kent has to say! You know he loves Charlotte. Rating: 3.8
Kent: This was on my laptop while The Walking Dead was on. I made the right decision. I can’t stand a Charlotte match and she won. Fuck this.
- Brock Lesnar defeated AJ Styles
Russ: Wow, this match is already on at 9:30! The 5 man Survivor Series Match must be close to an hour because I don’t think Lesnar can go for more than 15 minutes. AJ is a good ragdoll for Brock. AJ sold Brocks offense like a champ! On a down note I couldn’t tell if this match was sloppy or just too many high impact moves and a few of them were just off. Still this was fun! They set up the Calf Crusher beautifully by attacking Brock’s knee often. Brock getting out of the Calf Crusher was also a thing of beauty. I hate that Brock has turned into a one-note wrestler, but that’s the way he wants to go out. The match went 17 minutes so I was close to being right about the 15. Jinder Mahal is in rarified air. I think he is the only human being who can’t put a good match together with AJ. This was fast paced and fun. Rating: 6.2 I think this would have been match of the night, but it was a bit sloppy at points.
Kent: This match was way better than I expected, and I accept that I was sorely mistaken on this. I am fearing for Brock Lesnar’s well being. He is red and purple so early in the match. He was not in great shape, yet again. You can not be ripped and have great cardio like Joe and KO. Brock was carried. Brock did his role, but AJ carried it. There were some sloppy moments, and I believe that Brock legit hurt his leg, probably his knee. He swore a few times and his knee looked swollen and he was visibly in some discomfort. AJ is still the best in the world, and I think that will be the case for another 2 years at the very least.
Rating: 5.9 It was fun and kept my attention. It told an okay story, but Brock needs to do something about his long term health.
- Team RAW (Braun Strowman, HHH< Kurt, Finn, & Joe) defeated Team Smackdown (Shane, Randy, Cena, Shinsuke & Bobby)
Russ: This seemed like a slam dunk win for Smackdown, but that was before they actually kept track for us all night. Makes me think RAW might actually pull this off. I guess we will see. The entrances alone took 20 minutes, because everyone had to get their own entrance. I am shocked! Shocked! Well not that shocked that Shinsuke, Bobby, and Joe, were the first to be eliminated, but this isn’t a match about showcasing the young up and comers. No, this is a match to showcase those who really need it, you know those part-timers and old guys. Cena getting eliminated was an actual shock. SamiKO’s interference was very welcome for 5 seconds until they were taken out like bitches *sigh*. Kent called Shane being the last man standing for team Smackdown and that was a complete ego stroking. HHH attacking Angle was odd, but we saw it coming to set up their feud for Mania. Braun at the end was fantastic. They made him look like a million bucks and he went over huge with the fans. Overall, this was decent. It wasn’t anything special, but it did help elevate Braun a bit. Too bad it won’t translate to belt wins or anything because gotta have Brock look strong for his feeding to Roman. YEA! Rating: 6
Kent: Yup, wrong again. I definitely had a fun first 5 or so minutes. Some of the spots worked. I have to admit, the part timers ruined this for me. You have 4 part timers and Randy and it felt like WCW in the mid to late 90’s with all of their old asses. Not much clicked for me as it progressed. Shane needs to be done. I am done with Shane, and I hate to admit it, but Kurt is starting to be iffy for me. HHH is all psychology and body sculpting. I don’t even know why Cena was there. Smackdown had all the teamwork, yet were made to look like total bitches. This match is what’s wrong with WWE. Yes, it’s great that Braun walked out as the #1 guy, but when it counts, he’s not going to get the Brock rub at Mania, so who gives a shit? I wanted to love this, and I didn’t really enjoy it. Yes, it totally kept my attention and kept me guessing, but this match did more harm than good in the grand scheme of things.
- What was the most logical booking of the night and most illogical?
Russ: I think the most logical booking was having Baron go over The Miz. Baron needed a rub and The Miz delivered it to him in spades. I also want to say the way they treated Braun was smart. I just know it won’t lead to anything great for him. The most illogical had to be the traditional 5 on 5’s. For the women I just don’t like how they treated Becky in the match. As for the guys, I think it is obvious but allow me to explain. I don’t understand why they had to showcase the old guys and the part-timers. They could have had all the same stuff happen except have it happen in the beginning of the match and then let Joe, Finn, Shinsuke, Bobby, Braun show us what they can do in the end. I don’t even know why Cena was apart of this. Yes I know his name alone is a draw, but he added nothing to this match.
Kent: Logical was Baron, Uso’s, and Asuka all winning. Illogical, the referee just allowing anything and everything to happen. More importantly, the women’s 5 on 5 really bothered me with how Becky and Bayley were treated.
Bonus Deuce Deuce
- Match of the night:
Russ: Going to have to give it the tag match. I had the most fun just watching that one so I’ll give it to that.
Kent: Baron vs Miz, no doubt.
- Worst Match of the night
Russ: Women’s Champions match. It was ok, but overall, the wrong person won and it was the match I paid the least amount of attention to.
Kent: Charlotte’s match for obvious reasons. Fat Hardy vs Elias also deserves recognition but nobody knew about it and therefore, expectations were incredibly low.
Russ: The PPV wasn’t bad. I actually paid attention to most of the matches and enjoyed them. Nothing was spectacular, but the matches were decent throughout the night. Rating: 5.8
Kent: 4 above average matches is a success in my eyes. See, I’m not always negative.
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