The Wrestling 9 Deuce – December 4 & 5, 2017 – Quality Wrestling and Slow Burns

This week and for the foreseeable future, we are trying a different format.  We know that this blog gets very redundant.  In an effort to ensure varying perspectives, one of us will be judging the other 2 people’s response.  This week, that task fell on Kent.  Let us know if this format works better or if it’s worse.  We are never going to be complacent.  We look forward to trying to be a fun, must read wrestling blog, so share your opinion.  This week, we had a plethora of good matches including Sami vs Randy, Roman vs Jordan, The Shie vs Sheasaro, the second Cruiserweight 4 way, Rusev Day vs New Day, Paige vs Sasha, and even the Asuka vs Alicia match.  We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained which you can also subscribe to on iTunes.

The 9

  1.  Elias had a great showing last week.  This week he gets mauled by Braun.  Was this a good spot for Elias or a burial of sorts?

Russ:  I’m ok with this.  Elias getting beat down by Braun opens up a potential feud.  Braun needs a good strong heel after he is done with whatever the fuck he is doing with Kane.  Why not Elias (Or Why not Zoidberg)?  This mauling plants the seed for that.  I wouldn’t be surprised if after next week’s slow and plodding Kane match that Elias comes out and ambushes Braun.  Elias would also benefit from a feud with Braun.  He doesn’t have to win it, he just has to make Braun look great and come out of the match like he at least had a chance to win.  That isn’t impossible to ask is it?  

Keri:  I don’t see how this is bad for Elias. He’s on the show and working with one of the top guys. Yes Braun is a top guy. Not THE top guy but one of the pseudo-top guys. I think WWE sees something in him if they are going to have him work with Braun. So, stop with the sky is falling theories. I don’t think we have to worry about them here.

Kent:  Russ nailed it with the Zoidberg reference.  I certainly enjoyed Keri’s assertive bashing of the sky is falling theories.  Both of you made similar points, so no points awarded.

  1.   Absolution surround Asuka and she left again.  Alexa Bliss left commentary again.  Creative can’t be so devoid of ideas that they are already repeating themselves….can they?

Russ:   Oi, a low light of the night.  This was just a rinse and repeat from the other night.  I get why they did it.  They want to highlight and build tension.  So they did the same thing two times in a row.  Yea, WWE there are better ways to build tension.  Perhaps Auska runs into Absolution in the back after her match and then do the stare down.  Then have Alexa turn around and walk the other way when she sees the stare down.   See same concept, different approach.  You still get the same result, except my way is a little fresher.   

Keri:  Ok first, think about the group of individuals you are asking this question about. You are asking this question about WWE creative. The same group that has given us The Bar vs. 2/3rds of the Shield 5 million times in 4 different combinations are still trying to pass it off as new and exciting. Therefore, recycling last week’s women’s storyline should not be surprising. Honestly, why is anyone surprised by this? What is surprising to me is the lack of Alexa’s involvement in all of this? You would think Absolution would go after her first if they want to change the division. But then again, WWE creative is booking this so maybe not.

Kent:  Russ presented solutions to the problem.  Keri tore Creative a new one.  I have to admit, I am an idea guy.  I’m going to award Russ 2 points and Keri 1 point.  

  1.   Is Bray Wyatt going to be forced to put over Fatt Hardy?  What is the ceiling for the Awoken gimmick, as in titles or spot on the card?

Russ:  I’m not sure he will put over “Woken” Fatt Hardy, but I think this will be a fun feud.  Hell, we might see these two families join forces before it is all said and done.  That is my hope anyway.  I thought the dueling promos was well done or at the very least hilarious.  Fatt Hardy is pretty funny when he is “Woken”  his lines were fantastic, but I think the best line of the night belonged to Bray when he said “The ramblings of a mad man are dangerous.”  Speaking from experience there Bray?  I’m going to sit back and enjoy this feud.   

Keri:  Let’s sit back and remember what is important here. It isn’t who puts over whom (granted at the end of the day Matt should put over Bray) but how good the promo off is going to be between these two while this is happening. Seriously, we need to have what we had Monday night on RAW for the next few months. No, need to put them in a ring at all just give them a mic and let the crazy flow. Both got enough material to keep this going for a good long time and for it to remain interesting. Sorry Kent and Russ but this has the potential to be better than Sister Abigail and will do much more for Bray than crossdressing and facing Finn would have.

Kent:  Well, if you don’t know what I am going to say, then let me welcome you, first time reader.    While I feel that Russ is very over confident in thinking that this is going to continue strong for weeks or months.  With that being said, there is No Chance in Hell that Keri was getting a point for suggesting that this feud has better potential than Bray as Sister Abigail.  THAT is impossible.  That was probably the single best feud of the year for me, and then mumps.  So no, Fatt Hardy is not going to be better than Sister Abigail.  Keri is deserving the walk of shame.  I award Russ one point while feeling great sadness and disappointment.  

  1.   Are we finally done with the Sheasaro vs The Shie?  The l and d are silent because they are only ⅔ of the Shield.

Russ:   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA…. Are we done with Sheasaro vs The Shie… HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA, who writes these questions, because you sir are a comedic genius!   To answer the question. No we are not done seeing this.  I’m not sure what happened to the tag team division on RAW, but it sure has turned into a two team division (teams, I might add, that are full of individual stars.)  The other teams don’t even get featured so there is no real competition.  RAW needs to work on building up their tag division before we see a departure from Shesaro and The Shie.   HAHA, man, what a good laugh.  

Keri:  Are you kidding me? We only have two tag teams in the division. If they can’t wrestle each other in various combinations of match ups, who are the going to wrestle? You want us to keep them off TV? I mean that is what you are suggesting right. That was me speaking as Creative. Now I shall say something to Creative.   Creative, Gallows and Anderson say hello from catering. Seriously, that is where one of the best tag teams on the planet is right now. They are in catering. Let’s all let that sink in for a second shall we?

Kent:  So it should be said that Gallows and Anderson fought Ginger Rhynos….on Main Event.  I should also say that 3 matches have been confirmed for RAW.  Roman vs Cesaro, Joe vs Dean, and you guessed it, Seth vs Sheamus.  While I liked Russ’ point about these 2 teams both being made up of singles stars, I gotta agree even more with Keri’s assertion that G&A are easily one of the 10 best current tag teams, and it’s probably closer to top 5.  Russ gets a point for calling me a comedic genius.  Keri gets 2 because she trashed Creative and sang the praises of the Good Brothers.

  1.  The best match of the night was________?

Russ:  This is tough.  There were Four high quality matches to choose from.  Jason Jordan vs Roman,  The Cruiserweight Fatal 4 way, Sasha vs Paige and The Tag Team Championship match.  You can at least say this was a good night of wrestling.  Out of those four deserving matches I’m going to call the Fatal 4 way the best match of the night.  These guys worked their ass’s off and it showed in the ring.  This match felt more like a cruiserweight match than almost every other WWE cruiserweight match in the past few months.  They had their high flying spots, some great near falls, and great spots that were left off our television screen because of stupid ass commercials.  All in all it was a great night of wrestling.  

Keri:  My vote is Jordan vs Roman. Both guys put in the work and put on a really good match. Some of those spots and near falls you didn’t see coming. Oh come on, you didn’t see Jordan catching Roman mid air coming and throwing him down and you know it. It was a damn good match. And good on Jordan for finally getting a crowd reaction. On the crowd heat scale, I would say he’s a solid Eva Marie right now.

Kent:  Well, obviously the point has to go to whoever picked what match I thought was the best, and I think that Cruiserweight match was really, really good.  It had a lot of different styles.  The pacing was solid, and the right guy won.  I would say that Roman and Jordan was very good as well.  Russ gets one point.  Keri, on an unrelated note, the timing of you mentioning Eva Marie is very funny as Russ will find out this Saturday at LingFest.  Pics will be sent.

  1.  Why did WWE add Dolph ZIggler to the US Championship match at Clash of Champions?

Russ:  After watching last night’s Smackdown the only conclusion to adding Dolph is that they want to showcase another Reinvention of Dolph. I swear he has more gimmicks than Mick Foley, just not nearly as memorable.  I’m ok with them adding him to the match.  Baron, Bobby, and Dolph should be able to give us a memorable triple threat match that will help elevate Baron and Bobby.  Baron doesn’t really need the rub, but a good match as a champion won’t hurt him.  Bobby on the other hand desperately needs a good match and fued.  Besides all of this, I have been hankering for an excellent triple threat match.  It seems like we haven’t had many this year.  

Keri:  I’m still scratching my head on this one. Do they have that little faith that Corbin and Roode can put on a good match? That can be the only reason why you would add Ziggler to this match, right? Because if it’s not that then I don’t know the reason why. It’s not like there is a storyline to back it up or anything.

Kent:  Russ isn’t wrong, but I think that Keri’s point is the most realistic.  I’m wondering if Baron and Bobby have worked house shows and perhaps stunk up the joint.  On the Are You Not Kentertained podcast, we have been trying to figure out if their chemistry would work.  That is my best guess.  There’s a great recent interview with Dolph that came out this week that I found fascinating.  While I think this will be among the best, if not the best triple threat of the year for WWE, the competition isn’t very good for that distinction.  Keri gets the point here.

  1.  Rusev Day has been added to the Tag Team Championship match at Clash of Champions.  What percent chance do the Uso’s have of retaining their titles in your opinion?

Russ:  Well, I’m no mathematician… I just play one at a school, but I would say it is a 25% success rate.  Oh, you don’t want actual stats, you want WWE stats.   Let’s look at the competition to determine this percentage.  Rusev Day:  As much as I love them and this gimmick they have about 8% chance of winning this thing and a 92% chance of taking the pin.  The New Day:  They just lost the belts and out of all the teams need the belts the least so I give them a 27% chance of winning (What can I say WWE has no problem putting the belts back on these guys.)  American Beta:  Out of all the teams here I feel they have the most potential to gain from a win here so I give them a 35% chance of winning.  That leaves the Uso’s with a 30% chance of winning this thing.  Which makes sense.  A win here would help solidify them as one of the best tag teams in WWE history.  

Keri:  First, let me start off by saying that I was told there would be no math when I started writing on this blog. Yet here we are. So, let’s see if we think through this logically and mathematically.  There are four teams and each technically have a equal chance of winning which means that they have a one out of four chance of retaining the title. So my answer is slightly over 25%. I’m saying slightly cuz you have to factor in the Creative laziness factor.  Also, it’s Ruuuuusev Daaaaaay! Sorry had to get that out of my system.

Kent:  My apologies to Keri.  She is right, when we negotiated her contract to do this blog and podcast, she did ask if math would be involved and I told her that there wouldn’t be.  My bad.  Still, Russ used the number 92 at one point and gave me reasonable odds.  I think Rusev Day are going to get the belts here.  Call it a hunch.  Russ gets the point here.

  1.  A year from now, which member of the Riott Squad will be the best on the mic?

Russ:  I’m going to say Ruby.  She already seems very smooth and relaxed on the mic.  She just needs to get some charisma and inflection.  That will come with practice.  The other two… I don’t know their names and I’m too lazy to look them up… weren’t bad to be honest.  The one with the Southern Drawl messed up her lines a bit and visibly got flustered, but her second try came off a little better.  I just want to know what the hell is a Pay-Pa?  

Keri:  My choice is Ruby. She really impressed me on Smackdown this week. She appears to be stronger on the mic than I thought she would be. And given time she will probably get stronger.

Kent:  While neither of you gave the answer I was looking for, Keri has to get this by default.  Russ talked about Sarah Logan and was too lazy to look up her name.  We are professionals, so Keri gets the professional point.  I think that Sarah Logan is going to be really good on the mic.

  1.  This is potentially the question that wins you the week.  1. Is the SamiKO story the best story being told in WWE?  2. Was Sami vs KO the best match of the week for WWE? (Kent: I meant to type RKO and instead it came out to KO.  I am deducting a point from myself.)  3. Randy Orton appears to be performing well again after a lull in the spring and summer.  Is Randy Orton the most consistently inconsistent performer on the main roster, in your opinion?

Russ:  Alright, let’s do this!  1.  I do love this story and it is one of the best stories being told right now, but I’ll be honest here I love what they are doing with Jason, Roman and Joe.  I’m still trying to figure out just what the hell Jason is.  Is he a face, a heel, a challenge everyone type of guy.  I’m intrigued.  SamiKO story is great as well.  They are actually telling a fantastic story.  Shane is clearly out to get these guys.  SamiKO are spot on with their criticism and yet are such dicks that it doesn’t matter.  I also like that Daniel is right in the middle of all this.  You know what I changed my mind this is the best story being done in WWE. As I was writing this down I literally changed my mind and I’m too lazy to go back and erase what I already wrote.  2.  Is this a joke? When did Sami face KO this week? I missed that.  What I did see was Sami vs Randy in a very good match.  The dynamic was well played.  Still I’m going to say that the fatal 4 way for the cruiserweight division was the best match of the week.  3.  This is the reason I have never been a huge fan of Randy’s.  One week he is great and lots of fun to watch.  The next he is boring and doesn’t seem to care.  I can’t stand that in him.  

Keri:  I’m going to keep this simple. 1. Possibly but not for the reason you think. 2. No. 3. Possibly. Now on to why I think SamiKO is the best story. So, as some of you may know (or may not know), I’m a huge Star Wars fan and I saw a meme Wednesday morning that got me thinking about the Shane and Daniel aspect of this storyline. Essentially right now, we have an Emperor and Darth Vader situation brewing here. Daniel is Vader right before he realizes that the Emperor is going to kill Luke in that one scene in Jedi. Daniel is starting to have this same realization about Shane and SamiKO. My question is how long will we have to wait before Darth Bryan picks up and throws Emperor McMahon into a hole while he electrocutes himself?

Kent:  At the moment, Russ is up 6 to 5 on the points.  Needless to say, I really had to read into everything that they wrote.  For their first answers, Russ babbled on and Keri gave us a slice of Star Wars.  I would have likened it to a different film that is incredible, Training Day and the dynamic between Denzel and Ethan Hawke, but Star Wars is more well known.  Keri get the point for that.  I’m not awarding either of you points for the 2nd question because Russ made fun of my typo, and Keri totally phoned it in.  So it comes down to #3.  Keri gave me the indecisive female answer of possibly.  Russ gave me a definitive answer.  Honestly, I have no choice here.  Russ gets the winning point. Russ wins this week.

Bonus Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  This was a fantastic RAW.  The first hour was spent on great matches and advancing storylines.  Jordan is becoming one of the best heels in recent memory through sheer annoyances.  WWE is playing to his strengths and it is working.  Four main matches that delivered and decent storytelling has made this one of the best RAW’s this year.  Rating: 7.5  

Keri:  It was a good RAW. I actually felt bad going bed after hour one and a half when I read the recap this morning. But at least before I went to bed, I got to see two solid matches. I missed the debut of Woken (don’t call him Broken) Matt Hardy but luckily the internet provides me with recap videos that I can watch and now I’m good. Rating: 6.5

Kent:  This was one of the 5 best RAWS of the year for me.  4 solid matches, logical storytelling, and the dueling promo.  It does get hurt by the redundancy of Absolution so early in their run.  7.2

  1.  Rate Smackdown

Russ:  It was a good show.  SamiKO / Shane / Daniel story is the best thing going in WWE.  No Fashion Files, which is fine because we gotta let the whole Ascension death settle in our heads.  Decent matches throughout left me moderately satisfied.  Rating: 5.8   

Keri:  Decent show with ok matches. I always feel like something is lacking on Smackdown. Probably because I remember the good times when the show was awesome and worth watching. Sigh. Those were good times. Great now I’m sad. Rating: 4.5 (I’m deducting a half point cuz now I have a sad).

Kent:  It was better than it has been lately, but it is still missing one or two things to really help it stand out, in  my opinion.  It’s a lack of great matches, that’s a definite.  Sure, one match a week is fine, but Smackdown used to be the bar.  Now they are The Descension.  4.9

 

Final Thoughts

Russ:  Tony “Abs” Neese has Abs for days people!  He is quickly replacing my Johnny Abs Obsession.  

Keri:  Is this abs week? It sounds like this is abs week. And if it is then no discussion of abs is complete without including Finn “at least my abs are over according to WWE” Balor in that discussion. Sorry Russ but even Finn outranks Neese, according to WWE, in the abs department. Seriously there was a WWE slideshow last week that I encourage everyone who likes abs to take a look at. And with that said, let me close out by saying abs.

Kent:  I apparently missed the memo about abs week.  I am absolutely morally deflated.  I may have to pour me a glass of Absolute Vodka.  Hopefully that will absolve me of not seeing the ABSformentioned memo.  OK, I apologize for that last one.  

Other noteworthy ABS include:

Always Be Shooting in video games

Antilock Brake System

Access your feelings, Be apologetic, and Slap It (as in a high five) – per Mr Frond on Bob’s Burgers


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