Channel Zero: No-End House Ep. 2 – “Nice Neighborhood”

This week on Channel Zero, we got to see how Margot handles seeing her dead father being not so dead, more info on Jules, watching JD deal with his cooler doppelganger, see Dylan in action, and learn about the cannibals.  Thankfully, Kristi is back to help me try to make sense of everything.  I gotta say, I keep rewatching some parts just to look for clues.  I’m very compelled by this show.  You should watch it on SyFy or the network’s app!

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The 9

  1.  Assuming that our main characters are in a version of “room 6”, do you think that all of these characters are still together, or do they each have their own versions?  For example, is the Jules that we see in Margot’s current situation really Jules, or could it be another entity like her father is?

Kristi:  Hmmmm… this is a good one. I’m unsure. On the one hand, I feel like they are in different rooms. Reason I say this is because when the one dude goes to find his wife and she doesn’t know him, it seems like that would be his nightmare, if they went in together and were in the same place, how would she have forgotten him already?  (We saw that Room 3 takes people one at a time, so that could be a part of the problem.)  Although, I’m thinking that Margot and Jules are in the same place.  I think their friendship will be the cause of their demise somehow.

Kent:  This is one of those questions that are trippy.  Does everybody who exits Room 5 end up in their own dimension or plane of existence?  In a way, that would make the most sense to me.  Clearly we have at minimal, 2 planes of existence.  We have the real world, and we have a world where Margot’s father is dead.  We have also seen JD have a doppelganger and the mysterious stranger is shooting Lacey in the head why people are taking out garbage and then he finds Lacey in a house.  So from my perspective, it would almost make just as much sense if everybody gets their own plane of existence where certain people act as you would expect them to.  For example, Margot would expect Jules to say the things that she has said so far, and JD would expect Seth to have waited by the house and be the hero, so it is possible.  Not probably, but possible at the very least.

 

  1.  Do you feel that Jules was a lousy friend in Margot’s time of need considering it was the start of college so many other variables in their young lives?

Kristi:  As someone that had gone through a lot of loss in my life, not really. She was there as much as she could be. We can’t expect our friends to stop their lives just because we are hurting.

Kent:  Well, we don’t know the circumstances as to why Jules doesn’t have a father.  Did he just leave his family or is he dead, and did Jules already experience that pain and just couldn’t stomach reliving that?  I don’t have enough info yet to really judge how she has acted.  All I can say is that there are scenarios when you can understand why she acted that way while being empathetic to Margot’s situation.  

 

  1.  What did you make of Jules’ room 5, where was the giant sphere in the room?  Also, when she woke up in the bathtub and saw the sphere, was that her room 4 or something else entirely?

Kristi:  Im honestly a little lost with Jules. Being as the only one we got a back story on was Margot, the others are a mystery so far.  (I really wish they would have elaborated one or two more minutes on Jules’ story when she was at home.)

Kent:  We see her walk into Room 5.  She appeared dry.  So in the beginning, when she woke up in the tub, was that Room 4?  It would have to have been room 3 or 4, or simply a dream.  A dream would make sense as room 3 for Margot was based off of her dreams, so maybe they foreshadowed that a bit.  As for the giant sphere, I have no god damn clue.  I wish somebody smarter than me could point me in the right direction.

 

  1.  Is Margot’s father, John, what the show has referred to as a “cannibal”?  Does this explain why the omelette tasted like nothing to him?  Do you think the eggs actually tasted good to Margot or was that a lie?

Kristi:  I would say yes. That creepy scene at the end makes me think he is for sure. Not sure about the eggs. I think Margot was just trying to get through breakfast so I’m not sure she really had an opinion on the food.  (In that situation, I don’t even know if I would have ate.  I loved Jules shaking her head.)

Kent:  Well, if you remember in Episode 1, in Room 1, it did suggest to beware of cannibals.  At the end, we see how John eats, with these bodies that look human but are filled with these odd balls.  Which makes me wonder if the tiny balls are somehow tied in to Jules’ Room 5 ball.  I assume only those balls have flavor or feel like sustenance to the people that inhabit this plane, possibly limbo for all I know.

 

  1.  JD’s room 5 had the guy with the mask, from room 2, only this time it was a “mask” of JD.  We know that there is a more confident or cooler version of JD in the one house.  Looking back to last week, was Room 1 and 2 all about trying to mess with JD?

Kristi:  I didn’t consider that but now that you mention it, yes. I do think so. It definitely creeped everyone in the room out after the molding of them were destroyed but I think JD may have been the target victim in those rooms.

Kent:  Yeah, it appeared that JD was made an example of last week and now with this week, there’s something to it.  Then I wonder if the house is all about your fears or more importantly, confronting your fears.

 

  1.  What was up with the eggs reappearing in the fridge?

Kristi:  I am assuming there are no grocery stores or anything in the so called town- room they are now in, I’m thinking maybe that stuff just happens there. Like, oh we are out of milk, Bam, milk appears.  (Good point, I can’t imagine that grocery stores exist in this plane of existence.)

Kent:  That was probably the oddest thing of the whole episode for me.  That also gave me another wacky theory.  I like theories and they are almost always wrong.  What if the moment that you step into No End House, you enter a portal of sorts to an alien dimension.  Now aliens have been studying us and have some ideas about us, but they don’t fully get us yet.  They could have a virtual reality for every single person that enters the house, and that would go along with everybody having their own reality.  Maybe aliens programmed eggs to be in the fridge and when they got moved, the coding simply said that eggs should be there, sorta like a really shitty video game.  It would help explain the people taking out their garbage, the fact that aliens see vehicles but don’t know all of the engine parts, and the eggs, and why when JD’s cool version hits him in the head, like it kinda caught it off guard that JD still wasn’t totally put down.

 

  1.  The mysterious drifter (His name is Dylan) was seen going through vehicles, breaking stuff, but most importantly, did you notice the license plate on the truck that had no engine?  What do you make of the license plate? This is around the 8:55 mark if watching without commercials.

Kristi:  I did not notice it at first but now that I see it, I have no freaking idea!

Kent:  To revisit my answer from question #6, wouldn’t the odd writing coincide with an alien virtual reality?  So I’m going all in on my theory.

 

  1.  Dylan shoots Lacey in the head because he knows it’s not really her, and the guy takes out the garbage like nothing happened.  He goes to his and Lacey’s house and he alludes to the fact that he got out but that she didn’t.  Is it safe to assume that he knows how to find the exit?

Kristi: I like that theory. There has to be a door or portal to get out so I think it could be very possible he knows where the exit it.

Kent:  I do believe that he knows how to get to the exit, but why didn’t Lacey go with him?  What prevented her?  Could it be that it was never her in his reality?  I think in circles here.  I need answers!

 

  1.  Seth sees the chick in her undies in the window who waves at him, and then sees the people in the circular cage at the end of the cul de sac.  What do you make of that?

Kristi:  I’m thinking the chic was a cannibal. Perhaps that is her way of getting him to go to her. Like maybe they have to go to them for them to take them. The people in the cage could be others that ended up there but couldn’t find a way out. Maybe they see the cage and somehow in their mind at the time, they saw an exit door. So now they have just lost it and are just roaming aimlessly in the cage? I’m sure I’m wrong but I like it.  (The cage as an exit possibility would make some sense.  I’m not sure that we see the cage at any other point other than from Seth’s perspective, yet.  Also, I like the idea of the chick being something like a Siren, using her sex appeal to lure him.  I kinda want to see her eat him now.)

Kent:  I hate to say this, but I don’t have a damn clue.  Knowing that the next episode is about cannibals, I am guessing that those in the cage were cannibals.  I don’t really get it though, nor do I get the hot chick yet, but more of her would be nice.

 

Bonus Deuce

  1.  Out of the 5 main characters. Which character’s story intrigues you most: A) Margot, B) Jules, C)J.D. D) Seth, E) Mysterious Drifter?

Kristi:  E. I feel like he has some grand purpose of being there but we just don’t have enough information. Maybe he is even the guy that is behind it all.  (Wouldn’t that be fun if he had a part in building it?  That would be similar to some of the stuff in the Cube film franchise, which is a great franchise.  Only 3 films, but they will get in your head a bit.)

Kent:  E, the drifter intrigues me because I do believe that he knows how to find the exit.  I will say, if my theory is correct, then Jules is my second pick.

 

  1.  Water seems to be a big part of this season.  Do you have any idea or suggestion on how it will play into the rest of the season?

Kristi:  I have no idea but I am very curious and excited for the remaining episodes!

Kent:  As long as it’s not like Signs, I am happy.  We saw Margot in the pool and how when underwater, it looked like there was no bottom.  Then at the end, how the body appeared from liquid.  Water or liquid may be how things are transported, and somehow ties in with my portal idea.  I really don’t know.  Now I am also focusing on the orchids as well as spherical shaped objects.  

 

Were You Kentertained by this week’s episode?

Kristi:  Hell yeah! I am very into this show. It has got to be one of the best shows on television right now.

Kent:  Huge props in using the song “Remember (Walking in the Sand)” by the Shangri Las.  I love this version as well as Aerosmith’s.  I thought it was a perfect song for that scene.  Hell yes I was Kentertained and I am so into this show.  Will it end foolishly?  Probably, but it’s still the best show currently on TV as far as I know at the moment.  In all fairness, aside from sports and wrestling, I only watch this, AHS, and Fear The Walking Dead at the moment.  Here’s one of my favorite exchanges during the episode.

“So how are you here?” – Margot

“Where, the dining room?” – John

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Channel Zero: No-End House Ep. 1 – “This Isn’t Real”

I’d like to welcome you to the newest addition to the 9 Deuce family.  Channel Zero debuted last year on SyFy and was really well done.  It came back this season with something that I found even creepier.  This is an anthology show, similar to AHS, but not as much man ass or political nonsense.  It sticks to telling a creepy narrative and is probably the best show that most of you are missing.  If you want to catch up on this season or last, you can download the SyFy app and find it all there.  I’m attempting to be the Pied Piper for this show and get as many people on board.  It has John Carroll Lynch this season, and that guy is amazing.

This season, it’s Kristi and myself discussing the show, but we would love to have more people get involved in the conversation.  There’s only 4 more episodes this season, as they do 6 per season, so it’s not too late to join in.  Just leave me a comment of contact me through any number of ways.  As always, any comments written in bold are made by Kent, unless otherwise noted.

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The 9

  1.  Let’s talk about the opening scene.  Do you think that we will get more on Lacey’s story by the end of the season?

Kristi: I think we will. I have a feeling we be getting more information on the other characters more so though. Everyone has a backstory and a reason they were chosen so I think we will be getting lots of info in the upcoming shows.

Kent:  You would think that would a resounding yes, but they really don’t have to.  They accomplished their mission in showing us that Lacey had some unresolved issues with the house, and probably foreshadowed how Margot may end up by season’s end.  Still, I hope that they do, but if they don’t, I’ll understand.

 

  1.  Did you think that we would make it through all 6 rooms in the first episode?

Kristi:  I did. By the previews it seemed as though they made it through and were fighting to live.  (In all fairness, I never saw a preview I don’t think, so I walked in fairly oblivious.)

Kent:  No.  With 6 episodes, I had started wondering if we would get a room an episode.  Well obviously that theory got shot to shit really fast.  I’m not mad, just wrong.  I loved the rooms by the way.

 

  1.  Do you think that we will find out who, or what, is behind No End House by season’s end?

Kristi:  Yes, like last season we will find out what is behind this.

Kent:  I would say that we should.  We may not get a definite name or anything, but we will have a general idea at the very least….I would hope.

 

  1.  Is Margot’s father, John, really alive?  If not, what do you make of what we saw at the end?

Kristi:  No, he is dead. In room 5 they said you have to go through to get to the end and then they ended up outside. They are now in room 6. I haven’t a clue how its possible but I’m assuming it’s some sort of illusion.  (I’m wondering if she took the wrong exit out of room 5.)

Kent:  The preview for next week alludes to “the presence of The Father”.  The fact that they aren’t naming him seems a tad odd.  I think he is a being that is living, and is a manifestation of some of Margot’s biggest fears or regrets.  Something meaningful like that.

 

  1.  Would you consider this show to be better than American Horror Story’s 2 most recent seasons with Roanoke and Cult compared to Channel Zero with Pirate’s Cove and No End House?

Kristi:  Oh hell yes! I liked Roanoke ok but I can’t even watch this season. Channel Zero is becoming one of my favorite shows now.  (I absolutely look forward to this show more than anything else on TV at the moment.)

Kent:  Yes, yes, a million fucking times yes.  Roanoke was an utter disappointment on many levels, for me.   Cult is just political trash.  This is creative horror and although not perfect, neither was any season of AHS, but they were fun and watchable.  That’s where CZ has the upper hand.

 

  1.  Will we find out more about the other guy that lasted in the House with our main group, the mysterious drifter with the backpack? (It is now confirmed that his name is Dylan, but we didn’t have that info at the time.)

Kristi:  Yes, I agree that he will play a big part in this season. It may not be revealed until closer to the end but I do think we will be learning about him more.

Kent:  He seems like the key to the puzzle or mystery of the season.  He’s been actively looking for this place to pop up again and showed no fear.  I would guess that he has this place better figured out than most.  It would be silly not to bring him back.

 

  1.  Did you find the characters likable so far?

Kristi:  Yes, I am very happy with the cast and characters so far.

Kent:  Yes!  I wasn’t in love with that, but they didn’t irritate me.  I liked how Jules wasn’t treated as the token black person.  Everybody just acted like normal everyday people that we would know in real life.  

 

  1.  What was your favorite room? Choices are: 1: The room with the busts and music and then the busts get broken except JD’s. 2: Guy with mask who shoves JD and the trail of blood. 3:  The Long Hallway. 4:  The room that was like an attic and Margot could see Jules and then her dad on a screen.  5: Her living room with her dad. 6: Margot’s house at the end?

Kristi:  5. The creepy dead Dad was very unsettling.

Kent:  #3 because it came from a dream, and dreams are fucking scary.  At least mine are.  #6 obviously intrigues the hell out of me as well.  I truly liked all of them in their own way.

 

  1.  If you had gone in, what point would you have exited the house?

Kristi: This is hard. I would like to say room 3 because room 2 was not all that bad. They thought it was a haunted house so creepy guy in a mask and blood stained floors would be expected. Realistically I would probably have been out in room one though. A molding of my face, lights out and I’m dead. I’m thinking that’s a whole lot of nope.  (The blood stained floor was expected, but how it was done, just one trail from the girl’s feet to the wall, it doesn’t sit right.  In my mind she’d have to be in on it because how did they get that close to her feet that quickly and do it so perfectly that quick?  Yup, I am over analyzing the hell out of this.)

Kent:  I’m torn, but it probably would have been after the first room unless somebody could have convinced me on the plausibility of all the busts being incredibly well done.  If I had gone to room 2, that would have been it.  Creepy dude in mask, trail of blood, and forewarning by a dude who has been actively hunting this place done.  Fuck that noise.

 

Were you Kentertained by this episode of Channel Zero?

Kristi:  A hell yeah! At first I wasn’t sure but once they got into the house, I was hooked. I’m really excited about this season. Have a feeling this is going to be even better than last season!  (I am right with you on that.)

Kent:  Of course I was.  I cannot wait for the rest of the season.  I’m very excited about it.  John Carroll Lynch is slowly creeping up on my all time favorite list.

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