#93 Halloween (2007)

And just as I thought I was out, I get pulled right back in. OK, I willingly walked into this treat.

Let me start off by saying that for the life of me, I DO NOT understand the hate for this movie. I’m sorry, but people need to let shit go when it comes to remakes. They are here to stay. If you don’t want to see it, don’t watch it. BUT do NOT tell me that it’s a bad movie just because you are too hurt that a remake was made. Let’s look at the remake market for horror.

Nightmare on Elm Street – noble effort, wasn’t bad, destined to be hated because it wasn’t Robert Englund. That was a good shot, I’m not hating, but I prefer the original.

Friday the 13th – The remake was fantastic. Compared to the original, I will take the remake any day. That is not me saying that I don’t recognize the importance of the of the original, much like any of these, but this movie was way more entertaining.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre – Similar set up, very close ties to the original, and it was well done. Some days I prefer the original, some the newer, depending on if I want bloody or gritty. Both excellent.

Hills Have Eyes – New one is way more bloody and gory, still a lot prefer the original.

Amityville Horror – New one wasn’t bad, it just never properly resonated with fans like the original, and I am partial to the original as well.

The Shining – The biggest debate for true fans. You see, you have the people that instantly dismiss it due to it not being Kubrick, due to the length, due to Jack nicholson being replaced by Steven Weber, a lot of differences from one to the other. Here’s the thing, the new one is more like the book. If you prefer the book, you should invest some time in the made for TV miniseries remake because it is extremely well done. The biggest beef I have with the remake is that it isn’t as scary, it simply isn’t. Both are great.

Which leads me to Rob Zombie’s take on Halloween.  This is THE BEST remake of the horror franchises, I do not accept any other answers. If you are pissed off that the family is white trash now as opposed to the original, well quite frankly it makes Michael’s descent all the more logical and reasonable. The original provides shit for a back story, and most people are actually satisfied with this? I firmly believe the haters went into this movie with  a hate on and never gave it a fair chance. This movie has something called character development. Wow, what a neat fucking idea. You don’t like the characters? Too bad, they have dimensions now. The original characters were poorly fleshed out and I will fight somebody tooth and nail over this. Look how long it took to get to Michael killing people in this. Look at what you know by that point. His mom is a stripper, the kids at school pick on him for this, he likes pet rats, his step dad is a complete dickhead to everybody in the house and calls Michael gay and demeans the shit out of everybody. Well now, I can see how that kid may snap and kill some mother fuckers. Why did the original Michael Meyers go on a killing spree? ……….Waiting……….Still waiting……….I got all fucking day………..Oh, you don’t have a good reason. Well fuck you very much, go park yourself at the kid’s table with your hackneyed opinions and preferences. You can tell I have had a few conversations and read some really stupid people’s opinions on this movie.

So we have a backstory. William Forsythe’s dickheaded character gets got. The stupid promiscuous sister and her man get got. We see titties! Sherri Moon dances.  This all happens prior to him being locked up. Are you kidding me? You are gonna complain about this? So Michael likes to have a mask on, makes him feel safer. Malcolm McDowell is Dr Loomis. Have I mentioned how great this cast is? The haters will bring up that it is a bunch of Rob Zombie retreads. Well ain’t that some shit. Who of his big stars before have huge roles in this? Sherri has an adequate role, and she’s hot. This certainly isn’t an issue. Tyler Mane is a beast of a man and is the best Michael in my opinion based on size and presence. Brad Douriff plays the main sheriff, and he’s a horror icon, ya know, the voice of Chucky. Danny Trejo plays my favorite character in this, and I so wanted him to live, and Michael ALMOST allowed it. Most heartbreaking scene in the film. Bill Moseley, the man who played Otis in the House and Devils Rejects, has a small role. Sid Haig, Captain Spaulding, also has a small roles. Other awesome actors in this include Dee Wallace, leslie Easterbrook, Ken Foree, Clint Howard, and Lew fucking Temple. Then you have Danielle Harris, who played Jamie in Halloween 4 and 5. What a great fucking cast!! Oh and the kid that portrayed young Michael Meyers was the fat kid that taunted Hancock, in that movie, Hancock.

If I haven’t sold you yet, then why are you even breathing? Unfortunately, the sequel wasn’t as good, some may say it was downright awful and began the downward spiral which led to the blah Lords of Salem. This movie though, this movie is a masterpiece that I think all horror fans should see. Oh and just in case I haven’t sold you, one final story.

My mom, who is now in her 60’s, she is the one that showed me the original Halloween and made me dig the franchise. I decided to show her this movie to see if she would like it or be a jaded old person who hates remakes. Without any influence, she tells me she enjoyed this one more due to character development and backstory. There you have it. This shit matters!

I give this movie an 8.3.

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House of 1,000 Corpses and The Devil’s Rejects 9 Deuce Horror Discussion

Yes, we are finally tackling this franchise!  Most of us here are quite excited about this one.  I say most of us as one of our contributors was not a fan of House, to say the very least.  That’s not a bad thing though because it’s more fun to have some disagreement.  If you find yourself agreeing with most of us, or if you think Chris has some valid points, leave us a comment.  Any comments in bold will be made by Kent.

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  1.  Let’s start off with an easy one.  Who was your favorite character in House of 1,000 Corpses?  Who is you favorite in Devil’s Rejects?

Kristi: Captain Fucking Spaulding in both films. I do like Otis more in Devils than in House but Captain Spaulding is the man, or clown, if you will.

Chris:  Doctor Satan. He looks like the prototype for one of the bad guys in a video game called Outlast. Rondo in DR, Danny Trejo is a badass

Teddy: I like Baby the most, but that’s because she is hot lmao

Cece: Captain Spaulding for sure. I also love Otis. For both.

Kent:  Baby won me over in House.  She simply was evil and sexy at the same time.  Captain Spaulding probably comes in at #2 followed by Grandpa Hugo.  As for Devil’s Rejects, it’s Captain Spaulding, but Otis is a very close 2nd and Sheriff Wydell was also pretty fucking good.  This line from him always cracks me up.  “Son, if you ever say another derogatory word about Elvis Aron Presley in my presence again, I will kick the living shit out of you!”

 

  1.  Name your favorite death from each film.

Kristi: House- Mother Firefly shooting the cop in the neck. It’s just a nice clean kill.
Devil’s- Gloria. I know it’s obvious that Baby will kill her but it’s just unexpected and a straight shot to the heart.

Chris:  Nash in House. The amount of time they make you wait with Walton Goggins on his knees is one of the only suspenseful parts of the movie. Wendy in DR, they did a good job with the aftereffects of a truck hitting a person like that

Teddy: Fish boy from house, and probably the I am the devil scene in the desert with Otis

Cece: House- I love Fish Boy. Rejects- probably the end scene.

Kent:  Walton Goggins in the first one, just how it was filmed.  I know that it was a bit controversial, but it really sticks with you.  As for DR, the final shot.  Something about long drawn out deaths seem to work for me.  Plus Freebird kicks ass.

 

  1.  Did you consider House a rip off of Texas Chainsaw Massacre or more of a TCM for a new generation?

Kristi:  I do not consider it a rip off at all. I think Rob did his own thing. He is a fan of all things horror so I think perhaps he had it in his mind but I really think he created this out of his own mind.

Chris:  RZ had no fucking clue what he was doing with House and it shows. He was definitely more coherent in The Devil’s Rejects and it shows. House tried to riff off of TCM amongst other horror movies, and failed miserably

Teddy: I mean that’s like saying the hills have eyes is a TCM inspired film. I feel like they’re their own thing.

Cece: I consider it more of an homage if anything. I love the TCM elements involved!

Kent:  I definitely think it was an hommage.  For fuck’s sake though, the ending was a tad bit of a rip off if we are going to be honest here.  With that being said,I think it inspired people to go back and rewatch TCM and that’s a good thing.

 

  1.  Would you have any interest in a prequel to these films?

Kristi:  Abso-fucking-lutely!!!

Chris:  No. Unless they got someone other than Rob Zombie and Sheri Moon to do them

Teddy: Nah prequels about horror movies never work out. Just listen to the songs plenty of a backstory there.

Cece: Hell yeah!

Kent:  There is a part of me that would love more history behind the family, especially Dr Satan.  But no, I don’t want a prequel.  Prequels almost always require a whole different group of actors because they are younger.  It sets up highly unrealistic expectations from fans, and it simply doesn’t work out nearly as often as it fails.  As much as I would love more from them, this is a case where I want to leave greatness as is without expanding beyond the story told.

 

  1.  Give me your thoughts on Dr Satan in House of 1,000 Corpses.

Kristi:  He is a sadistic fuck. I don’t think there is much more to say.

Chris:  I read in an interview once that Rob Zombie is hard to interview because he is so stoned he doesn’t think or speak coherently. The paper cut I got from the magazine I read that interview in gave me more enjoyment than watching House of 1000 Corpses. Who cares

Teddy: TBH they put soooo much hype around him just for him to barely be in the movie…also where the fuck did he go after House?? Like makes no sense

Cece: DOCTA SATAN!!!! Honestly, kinda cool. I wish they’d go more into his story.

Kent:  All hype with very little substance.  He seemed cool, and I wanted to know way more.  Instead it was the horror version of a cock tease.  The character is one of the biggest issues I have with this film.  All of this hype and you finally get a taste, but it feels so empty when they deliver him.  It saddens me because I wanted it to be cooler.

 

  1.  Who do you “cheer on” by the end of Devil’s Rejects: the cops or the killers?

Kristi:  The killers. Mostly because I wanted to see another sequel.

Chris:  If you feel bad for the killers it might be time to start upping your meds. Also let me know when you’re in Florida so I can hide my family. 

Teddy: The cops, despite Sherry Moon Zombie being hot like they were still fucked up killers, so no pity there.

Cece: Honestly, it’s like the almost make you feel bad for the Firefly family…

Kent:  The killers, obviously.  It’s a simple matter of getting to know their personalities over knowing very little about those officers.  It’s that simple.  If we had gotten to know both equally well, maybe it would be different.  With that being said, I tend to side with the killers in these films anyway, so what can I say?  Plus, by the end, you want another sequel really badly.

 

  1.  Give me a favorite line from one or both films.  They are loaded.  Yes, we all love Tuitu fucking fruiti, so give me another gem.  Captain Spaulding alone has plenty of them.

Kristi: House- Fuck yo Momma, Fuck yo sister, Fuck yo Grandma, but most off all Fuck You!! Lets face it. That entire scene is fantastic!  (This was going to be my answer.)

Devils-I’m gonna have to be taking your car today. See I have some top secret clown business that supersedes any plans that you might have for this here vehicle.

Chris:  “I’m not calling you a chicken fucker, but that boy over there looks sexually frustrated, and I don’t approve of chicken fucking.”

Teddy: “There is no fucking ice cream in your fucking future” and “if you don’t got a reason you hate clowns I will kill your whole family”

Cece: House- Not really a line spoken, but I love Spaulding’s shirt, ‘If I wanted to hear an asshole, I’d fart’
Rejects- ‘The next thing out of your mouth better be some fuckin’ Mark Twain shit…’

Kent:  House – Otis: [ranting to tied up cheerleaders] “Why”, you ask? “Why” is not the question. How? Now, that is a question worth examining. How could I, being born of such, uh… conventional stock, arrive a leader of the rebellion? An escapist from a conformist world, destined to find happiness only in that which cannot be explained? I brought you here for a reason, but unfortunately you and your sentimental minds are doing me no good! My brain is frozen. Locked! I have to break free from this culture of mechanical reproductions and the thick encrustations dying on the surface!

[sees the girls aren’t understanding]

Otis: Oh, Christ. Fuck it!

More quotes are here:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251736/trivia?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu

Devil’s Rejects – Candy: What you lookin’ at?
Otis B. Driftwood: I’m lookin’ at you, mama.
Candy: Yeah, you see something you like?
Otis B. Driftwood: Maybe. I set my standards pretty low, so I’m never disappointed.
Candy: Oh, well I don’t disappoint.

Otis B. Driftwood: You had to come all fuckin’ big stick, walkin’ tall, like a big fuckin’ hero. Got yourself to blame, hero. Look at you now, hero, you’re gonna fuckin’ bleed to death!

Baby: Just in case anyone’s interested, I think I’m gonna be wanting some ice cream in about 10 miles.
Otis: [in a mocking tone] “I think I’m gonna be wanting some ice cream in about 10 miles.”
Baby: Don’t you fucking imitate me, it’s fucking rude!
[mocking]
Baby: “I know what I know and I know I don’t like that nut sack… ”
Otis: Fuck you.
Baby: Fuck you!
Captain J.T. Spaulding: Two fucking seconds for the kid, is that gonna kill you?
Otis: Yes, it is going to kill me! I have calculated the time, and two seconds is the exact amount of time that is a hazard to my fucking health.
Baby: What the fuck is your problem? I’m in and out in two seconds!
Captain J.T. Spaulding: You know? I think I’m gonna get me some tutti fucking fruity.
Baby: Tutti fucking fruity, that sounds good!

More Quotes here:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395584/trivia?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu

 

  1.  Which actress playing Mother Firefly did you prefer: Karen Black in House or Leslie Easterbrook in Devil’s?

Kristi:  Karen Black!

Chris:  Karen Black. She made M.F. crazy instead of just slutty

Teddy: I have no preference, but the lady in devil’s was a hoe lmao

Cece: Karen Black, for sure!

Kent:  Much like everybody else, Karen Black is the preference, but I am left wondering, If you switch what film they were in, would we change our tune?  Was it the actress so much or was it the role that they were given and the story that each had to tell that is the preference?  My guess is that we simply enjoyed teh character more in House than DR.

 

  1.  Would you consider this the high point in Rob Zombie’s film career with these 2 films, or just the beginning?

Kristi:  I have to say yes. I enjoyed Lords- it gave me nightmares so I conclude that it was good. 31 was not as good as I hoped. I did enjoy his renditions of the Halloween flicks. Getting to see more of young Michael and more of the story inside the asylum and his relationship with Dr. Loomis was great but I remember when House came out and I was infatuated with this flick!

Chris:  I remember liking Rob Zombies music. I remember being excited before House came out. I remember seeing it and being like this is the biggest piece of shit I ever payed money to see. I never bothered with the Devil’s Rejects because of this. Talking with Kent about this before I rewatched House I wondered if my opinion would have changed with time. Nope. It still fucking sucks. Between the shitty cinematography, plot, acting, relative lack of gore, lack of a point, etc. it is still pretty much one of the worst movies I have seen. That being said The Devil’s Rejects surprised me. It wasn’t bad. With another director I think it could’ve been great. There was a good soundtrack, characters seem to have developed only one personality, and it had a plot. I have heard mixed reviews about his Halloween’s and almost nothing good about his later efforts. So yes this probably was his hey day

Teddy: I feel like this is his middle ground. Halloween 1 was his peak. Halloween 2 doesn’t exist to me.

Cece: Most definitely. I loved these two films and the first Halloween. Once Halloween 2 came, I stopped really following his movies. I feel like he dropped off.

Kent:  I think DR is great and probably my favorite of his films, but I think Halloween was his pinnacle.  After that, boy did it go downhill.  I am not as hard on Halloween 2 as others are.  I accept it’s many flaws and simply try to enjoy it now, but I understand all the criticisms and didn’t enjoy the film the first time that I saw it in the theater, which was the only one of his films I saw in the theater.  Lords of Salem and 31 were both incredible disappointments and whoever was helping Rob with cinematography and edits and stuff from DR and Halloween 1 must no longer be around.  Simple as that.  Huge drop off.

Bonus Deuce

  1.  Pick a type of horror sub genre that you would like Rob Zombie to make a film out of, like vampires, haunted houses, found footage.

Kristi:  Found footage. He seems to do really well with the gore factor. I’m not a huge fan of found footage movies but if it was more like Roanoke where the camera was steady but still told the story, I would dig it.

Chris:  I pretty much dislike everything he has done, so none. Let him stick to music, where I can appreciate him

Teddy: Tbh I want to see him take on a stephen king novel. Maybe he could take on something like thinner or the stand.

Cece: To be fair, I’d like to see his actual take on a TCM remake. BUT, I’d like to see an almost re-telling of a real life serial killer too.

Kent:  I’d like to see his take on the film The Snowtown Murders, that seems like something that he could handle.  Something cult based could be fun.  I’d also really love to see where he would take a House on Haunted Hill style film and see what crazy shit he could come up with.

 

  1.  Pick a favorite song from these 2 films.

Kristi:  House- Little Piggy by the man himself- Rob Zombie
Devil’s- Rocky Mountain Way- Joe Walsh

Chris:  I never knew Michael Damian’s version of Rock On in the ‘it’s was a remix. So I’ll.go with David Essex’s original, I liked the slowed down beat and the minor key it’s in compared to the one I grew up with. The Devil’s Rejects had a pretty great soundtrack altogether

Teddy: I honestly don’t know any songs from here but I’m a fan of the devil’s rejects and house of 1000 corpses by Zombie himself

Cece: House- I guess I’ll pick ‘Pussy Liquor’ by Zombie and Rejects, ‘Midnight Rider’ by Gregg Allman.

Kent:  Brick House in House, for sure.  Devil’s had way more options for my taste in music.  Midnight Rider, Fuck No. 49, Rocky Mountain Way, and Freebird.  Freebird seems like a given, but I have always been a huge fan of Funk No. 49.  The way that all 4 of those songs were used in the film were incredibly well done.

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