9 Deuce Horror Presents: Texas Chainsaw Massacre

The 9 Deuce Horror Group sat down and answered some questions surrounding the original and remake of one of the most iconic horror franchises in history, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.  I am here with Kristi, Dom, and Cece, so I want to thank them.

  1.  When you saw the 1974 version for the first time, and watched the opening about how this was real, did you wonder if it really did happen, or did you just assume that it was just another horror flick?

Kristi:  I am more apt to believe it’s based off of true events when it says that. So I believed it.

Dom:  No, I believe that it took some true life event for it’s inspiration

Cece:  The actual legitimate story probably didn’t take place, however, it was said to have been influenced by Ed Gein. 

Kent:  Yeah, I bought into it at first.

 

  1.  I don’t think that we had seen much, if anything quite as extreme as this in mainstream cinema in America at the time.  This set the bar for awhile.  Chronologically, what was the next film that you feel upped the extreme factor beyond this particular film?  There are no wrong answers, but I may poke fun a bit because I’m a jerk.

Kristi: If I’m being honest here, I really haven’t seen many films from the 70s, so I will go with my favorite, Mr. Michael Myers in Halloween.

Dom:  Friday the 13th.  I hear that many moviegoers were not ready for the “extreme” violence of the original TCM

Cece:  Honestly, I am not sure. I think a lot of people really clung to Blair Witch when it came out.

Kent:  Salo is the answer.  There are no other answers.  It is Salo.  Of you haven’t seen Salo, don’t, but know that is the answer.  

 

  1.  Which character got the worst death in the original film?  What about in the remake?

Kristi: Original- the first girl that got killed. Hanging on that hook is way worse than getting clobbered in the head.

Remake- Kemper, Again with the damn hook!

Dom:  Original: The dude in the wheelchair.  Just couldn’t get away.

Remake: Morgan

Cece:  Hook girl is pretty solid for the original. For the remake, I’d say Andy or Morgan.

Kent:  Franklyn and Andy

 

  1.  The original had one of the better endings, especially for it’s time.  Aside from Psycho, can you think of other films prior to the 80’s that had such a unique ending?  If so, what film(s)?

Dom:planet of the apes

Cece:  Honestly, I am clueless on this matter.

Kent:  Salo, Jaws was interesting, The Hills Have Eyes, The Nudist Colony of the Dead, I Drink Your Blood, Suspiria, a lot of them is in the conversation.

 

  1.  Tobe Hooper had a good career as a film director, he also did Salem’s Lot, Poltergeist, Billy Idol’s music video for “Dancing With Myself”, an episode of Tales From The Crypt with Whoopie Goldberg, The Funhouse, Lifeforce, The Funhouse, along with a  few other things.  Would you consider this his best work or do you prefer something else that he did?

Dom: This will be his masterpiece.

Kristi: I actually prefer Poltergeist. The girl screaming for 20 minutes in TCM was annoying as hell. Shut the hell up, calm down, and figure out a plan! Don’t get me wrong, I love this movie, but seriously, did she need to sit there and scream uncontrollably at the table?

Cece:  This will always be his best work.

Kent:  Poltergeist was a better done film, but this is my preference.  Not my best answer, I admit.

 

  1.  Let’s talk about the hitchhiker scene in the beginning of both films.  The original had a male while the remake had a female.  Which one set the tone better for the rest of the film in your opinion?

Kristi:  I have to go with the remake. It gave me an idea of where the film was going. I enjoyed the original as well but it didn’t really give me any direction as to where the film was headed.

Dom:  Both.  Each had a different reason for being there in the beginning as a set up for later.

Cece:  I think the remake was a better feel honestly.

Kent:  I think remake, but both served their purpose, but that fucking exit would in the remake.

 

  1.  The remake starred both Jessica Biel and R Lee Ermey of Full Metal Jacket fame. Did this help the remake by adding well known people, or did it detract a bit from the experience?

Kristi: I like her. I was not distracted at all by them being in it. For me, it added to my enjoyment of the film.

Dom:  It’s the content of the film as well as the story for the most part, though bad acting can totally destroy a film too

Cece:  Usually when using big names, I do get distracted. However, this didn’t bother me for this film.

Kent:  This one worked because Jessica Biel has had a meaningless career career, so it came down to R Lee and he killed it in this one and the prequel.  I liked it.

 

  1.  Who was your favorite character in either film?

Kristi:  Original- The Hitchhiker.  He was batshit crazy. I like that.

Remake- I enjoyed Jessica Biel’s charactor. She irritated me a little bit in the beginning but I think she did a pretty damn good job overall.

Dom: LeatherFace for both

Cece:  I love the crazy family members of Leatherface.

Kent:  Original is the Hitchhiker, remake is Sheriff Hoyt

 

  1.  When you simply consider the look of how both movies were filmed, obviously the remake had a significantly more polished feel to it, which style do you prefer?  The low budget feel of the original or the polished Hollywood style of the remake?

Kristi: I usually like the more Hollywood style but for this film, I liked the low budget feel. I think it adds to the film.

Dom:  The original having that low budget feel made it feel like a documentary , but a good documentary.  The polished feel was expected of today’s audiences.  But i felt both styles were done good.

Cece:  The low budget feel in the original takes the cake. This is one of the main reasons this movie scares the shit out of me.

Kent:  I gotta go with original, but it is very close.  I love 70’s gritty look.

 

Bonus Deuce

  1.  It’s okay to admit that this was a well done remake.  Not all remakes are inherently evil or unwanted.  When done right, they can be a positive experience.  Name a few remakes that you really enjoyed.  The obvious example is The Thing in the 80’s, and that will be my answer, but there are quite a few others.

Kristi: Rob Zombie’s Halloween is the first to come to mind. I think It was done very well also! I didn’t hate Carrie either. It could just be because I like the girl, but I thought it was ok.

Dom:  R Zombie’s Halloween.  Black Christmas

Cece: Zombie’s Halloween for sure (but only the first one) also IT (2017)

Kent:  The Thing, Halloween, The Crazies, Friday the 13th, Night of the Living Dead with Tony Todd, IT

 

  1.  Have you seen any of the sequels, and if so, did you like any of them?

Kristi: I have not seen them.

Dom:  i have but i only remember bits and pieces.  So I’m guessing no.

Cece:  I have seen bits and pieces of the 2nd one with the chili cook off and it’s so bizarre. My mom thinks it’s hilarious.

Kent:  I have unfortunately.  Part 3 was the best of the original 3 sequels, and the prequel to the remake was fine as was the 3D film for what it was.

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The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)

Michael Bay wanted to make a reboot of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise, and so he went to work.  People frown upon remakes, I am one of them, but this is truly an exception to the rule.  This was not the same story as the original, and for that I am grateful.  The original was great as it was.  This is similar, but different enough.  I am going to give you a synopsis full of spoilers followed by my final thoughts and a rating.  

 

SPOILERS

We meet our main group of friends.  We have Erin (Jessica Biel), her boyfriend Kemper, Morgan (Jonathan Tucker), Andy, and his hitchhiking love interest, Pepper  They are on their way to a Lynard Skynard concert.  They had gone to Mexico and got a pinata full of weed, so wet blanket, I mean Erin, is pissed at Kemper.  They pick up a hitchhiking female, and she is just in rough shape.  She just wants to go home and looks like she has been through hell.  She doesn’t want to go back and pulls out a loaded gun from her crotchal region and puts a bullet in her dome and we get a great shot through the exit wound.  This was so different from the original and set the stage.  In the original, the guy was just lonely and nutty.  This was the epitome of hopelessness, and it was incredibly sad.

They go to call the sheriff and he wants them to meet by this house, so they explore the barn.  Anyway, they end up at the Hewitt house and Erin goes to call again and Kemper grows impatient.  Anyway, this is all an elaborate set up.  The sheriff gives Morgan, Andy, and Pepper a hard time and asks them to do some ridiculous shit.  The sheriff is played by the great R. Lee Ermey.  They eventually figure out that he is involved with everything.  Kemper gets got first.  Everybody gets got and we meet more relatives, including a little boy, Jebidiah.  He is played by David Dorfman, who also played the role of Aidan in The Ring.  Anyway, Jebidiah, a name that comes up later on in the franchise, he helps Erin escape from Leatherface.  The family is not as over the top in this one and set a really nice ambiance.  In the end, after having a face off with Leatherface in the meat packing facility, she ends up hotwiring a car and runs over the Sheriff a few times.

End Film

 

Final Thoughts – While the original is very gritty, this is very polished, but in a good way.  They made plenty of changes that didn’t hurt the story in any way and made up it’s own backstory which comes into play in the follow up film.  I loved the family in this even more than the original.  They upped the gore level.  It was never scary, but it was dark. Leatherface wasn’t goofy anymore, he was a bad ass killer not to be trifled with.  Jessica Biel probably should have had more skin showing through given what she was wearing.  Morgan was also an interesting character put in situations that you try to put yourself into, and he was fucked the whole time quintessentially.  

Rating: 7.6 it’s the same rating I gave the original.  I love both and I am not going to tell you one is better that the other.  Some will disagree, and that’s fine.  Both have a charm, and both are the best of their respective franchises.

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Prom Night (2008)

I found the original Prom Night from 1980 to be mediocre, but did help push some angles that other films have taken and made their own, so it had some historic significance.  Then along comes this film, which is and isn’t a reboot of the franchise.  I have no idea.  I think it sorta is.  Anyway, it does have some recognizable names including: Brittany Snow, Idris Elba, Kellan Lutz, James Ransone, and Ming-Na Wen (Chun Li in Street Fighter!).  OK, the biggest name is Idris, but the others are names you may know, like James was in Sinister 1 and 2, or Kellan from the AWFUL Twilight franchise.  Brittany Snow should be doing porn, but instead has done Pitch Perfect films.  Yeah, exactly.  OK, so I am going to give a brief spoiler laden synopsis and then follow that up with my final thoughts and a rating.

 

SPOILERS

Donna (Brittany) finds her brother and father dead and then hides under a bed and has to see her mom killed by her former teacher, Richard Fenton, so she ends up living with her aunt and uncle. So far, this isn’t nearly as cool of an opening as the original with the kids accidentally killing Robin.  Sadly, this is the best part of the whole film.  This leads to prom night, and 3 couples get a suite at the hotel where this super prom is taking place.  This prom is so over the fucking top, rich kid’s school shit.  They have some of the absolutely most cringe worthy dialogue in film history.  Go ahead, watch this and drink every time you cringe.  You will get drunk.  The obsession over who’s going to be prom queen was especially nauseating and the whole thought of how important it is, and how it will be a lifetime highlight, and how everybody will remember who the queen was.  Fucking hell, I wanna kill these kids before Richard does.  Oh yeah, Richard has escaped prison.  So the cops are keeping tabs on the prom, mainly Idris and James come into play.  

One of the couples is afraid of going to college 100 miles away from each other because love from a high school relationship is forever.  Fucking naive fucking morons.  If you believed this shit when you were in high school, open hand slap yourself in the face, and you know damn well that some people reading this were that gullible, whether they choose to admit it or not.  I couldn’t get any chicks in high school, so I can openly admit to never being this fucking stupid.  The cleaning lady and a bellhop guy get got by Richard, and then some of the friends.  Oh, this is rated PG-13 so the murders are such bullshit that you can’t even enjoy their deaths.  I want some drawn out sadistic kills based on dialogue alone.  I do love the one girl, Chrissy, whose whole life for awhile revolved around being a bitch and trying to be prom queen.  She is who she is and isn’t ashamed of it.  We need more people like her in movies.  She does not get killed.

So the whiny white couple get got, and the black chick does, but not her boy toy.  Black chick was really pretty in this and had a nice dress.  Some of these prom dresses are fucking laughable.  Yup, critiquing young women and shaming them.  That’s what I do.  So they pull the alarm, evactuate the hotel, but Richard has escaped.  Donna and Bobby are at her aunt and uncle’s place, which is under supervision, but Richard is a fucking skilled ninja who has killed off trained police officer who are on lookout duty.  This guy has no fucking special powers or training, but is taking people out like it’s nothing.  Bobby is now dead in bed with Donna and Idris is hauling ass back.  The final showdown is painful to say the least.  Like, she doesn’t scream to get Idris’ attention and that fucking drove me nuts. Everybody cries at the end, including those who paid to see this.

End Film

 

Final Thoughts – Holy hell, who got this film greenlit?  How did they attract so many talented people?  How did this film make over double it’s cost?  How the fuck is that possible?  This is pure trash horror made for teenie boppers who would also call bullshit at how tame this is.  7 year old Kent would make fun of this trash.  Also, no tits, what the fuck?  This is why horror should always be mandated to be R unless it’s something like Monster Squad.  I was so irritated during this, and halfway through, I realized that I had sadly seen this before.  Fuck.

Rating: 2.5 Mainly for Idris and the attractive young women.  Yeah,that’s what I have to offer you.  Read a book or something rather than watching this shit.

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