2017 Survivor Series 9 Deuce Review

Russ and Kent watched Survivor Series, or most of it and we are here to discuss the show in graphic detail.  Still no Paige.  I also found myself missing Ellsworth.

Pre Game Deuce (Or the matches that weren’t advertised)

  1.  Elias defeated Matt Hardy

Russ:  Didn’t know this was a match, didn’t care.  I’ll take Kent’s word for this and not bother watching it.  Rating N/A  

Kent:  Fat Hardy is fat.  He has let himself go, yet again.  I am not one that can criticize, but I can point it out.  This wasn’t even a fun match and I love watching Elias.  This was a dud.  Aiden or Rusev instead of Hardy would have been much better.

Rating: 2.5 with all those points dedicated to Elias trying to carry this match the best that he could.

  1.  SamiKO defeated Breezedango

Russ:  Glad they gave Breezedango a match, but Kent is right! This should have been against a RAW team.  I can’t believe SamiKO was relegated to an impromptu match on the Kickoff Show.  I hope they get treated better over the next 5 months.  Rating:  4.  It was an adequate match, but with no story or reason for the match it did very little.  

Kent:  Why didn’t they go Gallows and Anderson vs SamiKO is beyond me.  This match was given some time, but it wasn’t all that good.  Probably the best of the kickoff show, but that doesn’t require much.  SamiKO along with Breezedango deserve better booking.

Rating: 3.3


The 9

  1.  .  205 Championship Match – Enzo defeated Kalisto

Russ:  Oh man, this was hot garbage.  Kalisto doesn’t do it for me.  He had one good match against Baron.  The only reason that was good, I think, was because Baron could ragdoll him a bit.  Well Enzo can’t do that because they are the same size.  Also, with all the interbrand will they, won’t they put us #undersiege shit going on this month this match got lost in the shuffle.  Please, PLEASE, have Enzo move on from Kalisto.  Rating: 2.2

Kent:  I tried to try to pay attention, but i just couldn’t.  I honestly wasn’t into this match at all.  I don’t enjoy Kalisto as a singles guy.  Bring back Lucha Dragons, PLEASE.  Enzo needs a better opponent with some technical skills.

Rating: 2.7

  1.   The Shield defeated New Day

Russ:  Alright let’s get this out of the way.  The end result was obvious.  If you thought The New Day had a chance of winning this then you don’t know WWE.  Overall this was a fun match.  The New Day played the role of Heel, but never really utilized a lot of heel tactics.  It was typical tag match in the beginning.  The second half of the match really picked up the pace and a lot of fun sequences occurred.  I love how the rules go out the door when the WWE needs them to.  At least commentary did their best to try and cover this up.  Loved some of the innovative finishers they did at the end.  Overall I was satisfied with this opener.  Rating:  5.8   On a side note I like how they are keeping score of the wins for the night.  

Kent:  The refereeing sucked so much in this match, and this would be a common theme throughout the night, unfortunately.  The ref allowed both team, but especially the Shield too much time with 2 or 3 guys in the ring at the same time.  Grow a pair ref and make them abide you!  When the fuck did Seth get so lazy or bland in the ring?  He was just good as a tag team with Dean, but if you notice, Dean has been the workhorse, but Seth used to be.  It’s odd and I don’t like it.  Seth is a great workhorse, but I don’t know if he ever fully came back from injury.  It’s weird and sad.  It’s sad to see how Dean’s arms have no definition and the shirt exemplifies that big time.  This was a good match, and it was fun.  It kept me engaged all match, but not always for positive things. Still, I can say that this may be rewatchable.

Rating: 5.1 Just to be safe as I could be coerced into rewatching, or I may never watch it again.  Everybody tried at least.

  1.  Women’s Traditional Survivor Series Match:: Team RAW (Asuka, Sasha, Alicia, Nia, & Bayley) defeated Team Smackdown (Natty, Tamina, Carmella, Naomi, & Becky)

Russ:  Ok, Let me get this out of the way again.  The end result was obvious.  I wrote this before the match even started so let’s see how right I am with how this will end.  I’m saying Asuka and Foxy team Raw.  Well I was wrong about Foxy, though I wonder if her pin was a mistake.  The way they eliminated Becky was horrible.  She deserves a lot better.  The battle of the Hosses was underwhelming.  Tamina needs to learn how to wrestle.  I guess the count out was one of the only ways to get Nia out without making her look weak.  This match was mediocre at best.  At least it wasn’t unwatchable.  Rating: 4.1

Kent:  Poor Becky Lynch and Bayley to a lesser extent.  This match was insulting to both of them.  I also was not fond of Natty’s ring gear, but am loving Carmella’s.  Alicia looked great tonight, but I think the ref fucked up.  That was not a 3 count and believe me when I was I immediately text Keri, Eric, and Twan about how it wasn’t a 3.  Poor reffing again.  Nia tried, but this wasn’t a very good outing for her, while Tamina shined some.  Naomi was an afterthought as was Sasha to a certain degree.  This was all about showcasing Asuka and having the Hoss Showdown.  The effort was there, but wasn’t a good match.  I was paying close attention, so my rating may be higher than it deserves.

Rating: 4.3 Because it kept me engaged.

  1.  Baron Corbin defeated The Miz

Russ:  This was a well told story in the ring, but it definitely wasn’t the match of the night.  Both guys deserve a lot of credit.  The lead up to this match was mostly done on Twitter.  I don’t pay attention to Twitter so I missed a lot of this feuds build.  Still these two have a decent chemistry in the ring.  The only real negative I have about this match was the fact that The Miz worked on Baron’s leg and Baron sold it.  For about 1 minute.  It really should have played more into the match.  Ending sequence was fast and fun.  Rating: 5.4

Kent:  Yup, I fucking nailed it.  This was definitely the match of the night and both guys looked like stars doing it.  Both guys played to their strengths.  I am so proud of how far Baron has come, and he sold this match so much better than the supposedly superior Finn Balor.  The Miz deserves another run as the World champ next year in my opinion.  Everything about this worked, including Baron to tell a fan to shut up and sit down.  This was a fine example of 2 guys figuring their shit out and putting together a well executed match with good psychology and a logical progression.  

Rating: 6.8 I really enjoyed this one as you can tell.

  1.  The Uso’s defeated Sheasaro    

Russ:   This was a really good match.  I didn’t expect anything less.  These two teams continue to prove why they are the two best tag teams in the WWE.  The back and forth in this was great.  The spots were well executed.  Loved the last tag between Jimmy and Jay. It was a thing of beauty.  The right team won this I think.  Sheasaro didn’t need to win they just had to look good.  This match definitely delivered that.  Rating: 6.3

Kent:  This was the second best match of the night, and I nailed that too.  No, my arm doesn’t get sore patting myself on the back.  They did what they were supposed to but I can’t say that it was better done than Miz and Baron.  It was close.  Some stuff looked a little sloppy and Cesaro looked like he hurt his head.  I felt that he and possibly Sheamus were hampered by pain at various points in the match which hurt the pace a bit.  It was still very good, but it could have been at least a point better, without a doubt.

Rating: 6.6 I liked it, but I could have loved it and so I can’t rate it higher.

  1.  Female Flair defeated Alexa Bliss

Russ:  I’m sure this match was adequate.  I wouldn’t know because while I had it on I was most definitely playing video games.  So I would look up every once in awhile.  What I saw was standard stuff.  There were a few moments of entertainment, this wasn’t a total trainwreck. I mean Little Miss Bliss is always great, but the way she was treated for the past month as an afterthought made this pretty easy to predict.  I can’t wait to see what Kent has to say!  You know he loves Charlotte.  Rating:  3.8

Kent: This was on my laptop while The Walking Dead was on.  I made the right decision.  I can’t stand a Charlotte match and she won.  Fuck this.

Rating: N/A  

  1.  Brock Lesnar defeated AJ Styles

Russ:  Wow, this match is already on at 9:30!  The 5 man Survivor Series Match must be close to an hour because I don’t think Lesnar can go for more than 15 minutes.  AJ is a good ragdoll for Brock. AJ sold Brocks offense like a champ!  On a down note I couldn’t tell if this match was sloppy or just too many high impact moves and a few of them were just off. Still this was fun!  They set up the Calf Crusher beautifully by attacking Brock’s knee often.  Brock getting out of the Calf Crusher was also a thing of beauty.  I hate that Brock has turned into a one-note wrestler, but that’s the way he wants to go out.  The match went 17 minutes so I was close to being right about the 15.  Jinder Mahal is in rarified air.  I think he is the only human being who can’t put a good match together with AJ.  This was fast paced and fun.  Rating: 6.2  I think this would have been match of the night, but it was a bit sloppy at points.  

Kent:  This match was way better than I expected, and I accept that I was sorely mistaken on this.  I am fearing for Brock Lesnar’s well being.  He is red and purple so early in the match.  He was not in great shape, yet again.  You can not be ripped and have great cardio like Joe and KO.  Brock was carried.  Brock did his role, but AJ carried it.  There were some sloppy moments, and I believe that Brock legit hurt his leg, probably his knee.  He swore a few times and his knee looked swollen and he was visibly in some discomfort.  AJ is still the best in the world, and I think that will be the case for another 2 years at the very least.

Rating: 5.9  It was fun and kept my attention.  It told an okay story, but Brock needs to do something about his long term health.

  1.  Team RAW (Braun Strowman, HHH< Kurt, Finn, & Joe) defeated Team Smackdown (Shane, Randy, Cena, Shinsuke & Bobby)

Russ:  This seemed like a slam dunk win for Smackdown, but that was before they actually kept track for us all night. Makes me think RAW might actually pull this off.  I guess we will see.   The entrances alone took 20 minutes, because everyone had to get their own entrance.  I am shocked!  Shocked! Well not that shocked that Shinsuke, Bobby,  and Joe, were the first to be eliminated, but this isn’t a match about showcasing the young up and comers.  No, this is a match to showcase those who really need it, you know those part-timers and old guys.  Cena getting eliminated was an actual shock.  SamiKO’s interference was very welcome for 5 seconds until they were taken out like bitches *sigh*.  Kent called Shane being the last man standing for team Smackdown and that was a complete ego stroking.  HHH attacking Angle was odd, but we saw it coming to set up their feud for Mania.  Braun at the end was fantastic.  They made him look like a million bucks and he went over huge with the fans.  Overall, this was decent. It wasn’t anything special, but it did help elevate Braun a bit.   Too bad it won’t translate to belt wins or anything because gotta have Brock look strong for his feeding to Roman.  YEA!  Rating: 6   

Kent:  Yup, wrong again.  I definitely had a fun first 5 or so minutes.  Some of the spots worked.  I have to admit, the part timers ruined this for me. You have 4 part timers and Randy and it felt like WCW in the mid to late 90’s with all of their old asses.   Not much clicked for me as it progressed.  Shane needs to be done.  I am done with Shane, and I hate to admit it, but Kurt is starting to be iffy for me.  HHH is all psychology and body sculpting.  I don’t even know why Cena was there.  Smackdown had all the teamwork, yet were made to look like total bitches.  This match is what’s wrong with WWE.  Yes, it’s great that Braun walked out as the #1 guy, but when it counts, he’s not going to get the Brock rub at Mania, so who gives a shit?  I wanted to love this, and I didn’t really enjoy it.  Yes, it totally kept my attention and kept me guessing, but this match did more harm than good in the grand scheme of things.

Rating: 5.8

  1.  What was the most logical booking of the night and most illogical?

Russ:  I think the most logical booking was having Baron go over The Miz.  Baron needed a rub and The Miz delivered it to him in spades.  I also want to say the way they treated Braun was smart.  I just know it won’t lead to anything great for him.  The most illogical had to be the traditional 5 on 5’s.  For the women I just don’t like how they treated Becky in the match.  As for the guys, I think it is obvious but allow me to explain.  I don’t understand why they had to showcase the old guys and the part-timers.  They could have had all the same stuff happen except have it happen in the beginning of the match and then let Joe, Finn, Shinsuke, Bobby, Braun show us what they can do in the end.  I don’t even know why Cena was apart of this.  Yes I know his name alone is a draw, but he added nothing to this match.    

Kent:  Logical was Baron, Uso’s, and Asuka all winning.  Illogical, the referee just allowing anything and everything to happen.  More importantly, the women’s 5 on 5 really bothered me with how Becky and Bayley were treated.

Bonus Deuce Deuce

  1. Match of the night:

Russ:  Going to have to give it the tag match.  I had the most fun just watching that one so I’ll give it to that.  

Kent:  Baron vs Miz, no doubt.

  1.  Worst Match of the night

Russ:  Women’s Champions match.  It was ok, but overall, the wrong person won and it was the match I paid the least amount of attention to.  

Kent:  Charlotte’s match for obvious reasons.  Fat Hardy vs Elias also deserves recognition but nobody knew about it and therefore, expectations were incredibly low.

Final Thoughts

Russ: The PPV wasn’t bad.  I actually paid attention to most of the matches and enjoyed them.  Nothing was spectacular, but the matches were decent throughout the night. Rating: 5.8

Kent:  4 above average matches is a success in my eyes.  See, I’m not always negative.

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2017 Survivor Series 9 Double Deuce Preview

Keri and Kent break down every match on the card for WWE’s Survivor Series.  We are both hoping to try to enjoy this.  The go home shows were not very good, but the build ups were decent, so we are torn.

The 9 – This is going by the card as of 4:15PM on Friday

  1.  Kickoff Show – 205 Championship match – Enzo Amore vs Kalisto

Keri:  I’m not invested in this match at all nor do I care about it happening. With that said though, Enzo is putting some eyeballs (not mine) on the 205 product and that hasn’t been done in over a year. So that’s good. I predict this match to be decent but nothing special.

Prediction: Enzo retains because the E wouldn’t bite the hand that feeds the division, would they?

Kent:  I am really pulling for Enzo.  For better or worse, he is the shining light in that division that is keeping it relevant and giving it shine on RAW>  You may hate that, but it’s the truth.  I also hope to see Drew cut a promo.  

Prediction: Enzo via Drew’s interference or distraction like the ref throwing Drew out

  1.  Women’s Champions Clash – Alexa Bliss vs Ric’s Untalented Daughter

Keri:  I’m going get booed by Kent for saying this but I like Charlotte and I’m genuinely happy that she won on Tuesday. With that said, this is the better matchup. No offense to Natty but she is not a draw nor was she strong enough to spar with Alexa. Did you see the Instagram or Twitter video promos between these two? They were very one sided and showed Natty’s shortcomings. Natty, while decent in the ring is just not that strong overall. This is why the change was made and Charlotte is in the match. That and Alexa said it perfectly after the change was made. She has beaten three out of the four horsewomen and its Charlotte’s turn now. The storyline fits and the match should be good as well.

Prediction: Alexa puts the final Horsewoman out to pasture.

Kent:  If I had to bet my life on this, and this is how serious I am, I would still pick Alexa.  I would rather die in that scenario than to live knowing that I owed my life to the lesser Flair.  I cannot stand this girl and how she is gifted so much is utterly absurd, and it’s cause Ric calls in favors.  That’s all this bull shit is.  The only realistic chance Alexa has is if it’s revealed that Shawn Michaels is her real life daddy.  Still, I would rather be dead wrong and stand firm on my morales.

Prediction: Alexa after Paige costs Charlotte the match

As an aside, I just finished watching the Ric Flair 30 for 30 on ESPN.  It was really well done and it makes it really hard for me to hate on Charlotte.  Come Sunday, I feel that I will be back to normal.

  1.  Terribly Predictable Match – Shield vs New Day

Keri:  I’m going to keep this short because we all know who’s winning this match. This has the potential of being match of the night provided the teams are given time to work. But alas….  

Prediction: The Shield wins because you will cheer Roman and like it.

Kent:  I hate to say this because I know that this match should be good, but I also know that I am going to hate the ending, so what is the point?  I am sick of the Shield.  I don’t even know how I would feel if they were heels  That’s where I am at.  The whole will they or won’t they touch butts, I mean fists, really soured me on this, and that sucks, it really sucks, but it’s the truth.  It was a nauseating story arc.  This one is a no brainer, and New Day has been cast as the villains in this. My hope is that they revert a bit to their heel ways once they realize the crowd is only 20% at most, behind them.

Prediction: The Shield, and fuck anybody rooting for the Shield.  You’re idiots.

  1.  Women’s 5 on 5 – Alicia, Asuka, Nia, Sasha, & Bayley vs Becky, Camella, Naomi, Tamina, & ? – Predict who the question mark is  (Update, the 5th member is Natty, but Keri and I already told you this a day early.)

Keri:  The only thing I will say on this match is Asuka better come out on top somehow. As I said on this week’s blog, there is no other option. If any other option occurs, then WWE proves what I’ve been saying for a few weeks now and why I’m no longer interested in watching its product. As for our mystery person. I’ve been missing Paige so I would like to see her. But at the end of the day, this should and will be Natty’s spot.

Prediction: RAW women win and Asuka continues to look unbeatable

Kent:  The question mark is incredibly easy actually.  That will be Natalya with a 5% chance of a surprise being Lana.  It’s not going to be Paige.  Paige would spice up that division, but even then, Natty deserves to have a match, so I think the bland answer is the right one here.  Paige needs to come to Smackdown and kill the untalented one and then work a great program with Becky.  That is something my clue would like to get behind.  Alllllright.  Oh yeah, the match, Asuka is winning.  That’s another reason to not bring back Paige.  That’s why I think people are idiots for predicting Paige.  Are they really going to bring her back to instantly job.  They would NEVER do that.  Hang on, I just got a phone call from Bray Wyatt.  Ohhhh, man, now I am worried it may be Paige.  Yikes.

Prediction: Asuka and Alicia win and Natty is the 5th member of Smackdown and I am also predicting that Bayley is taken out backstage by a mystery assailant.

  1.  1 of 2 good matches – The Miz vs Baron Corbin

Keri:  Lately, Twitter feuds have been knocking it out of the park. There is the one that I’m extremely interested in (and the reason I’m getting up at 3 am on January 4th ) and this one. I will talk this one though. This one was well done and got me excited about the match. This also has the potential of being a match of the night contender again provided both guys get the time to put in the work (something the E doesn’t like to do).

And my prediction is: Axel and Dallas get thrown around by Corbin and Corbin wins. See Kent there will be lackey tossing in this PPV after all.

Kent:  This has gotten no hype, no shine.  Baron and Miz had to do all the hype on Twitter, and kudos to them for still having me hooked.  I think the Miz juggled everything incredibly well and Baron had that nice feud with Sin Cara.  I really enjoyed how WWE didn’t WWE the hell out of this.  That leads me to believe that will be a solid match.  It’s also listed as the 7th most important match on the card, so there is that.  Still, 12 minutes would be perfect here.  I think Baron needs it more than Miz, but whiny Baron and cocky Miz are the best of both of their worlds.  That’s why I think WWE will WWE this outcome.

Prediction: Baron and I won’t be upset.

  1.  The other good match – Sheasaro vs The Uso’s

Keri:  So, this week ROH put on their Facebook page a throwback match between the Young Bucks and the Briscoes. It was a two out of three falls match and it was amazing to watch. You are probably asking why I’m bring this up and not talking about this match. Because it was one of the best damn tag team matches I ever watched. Now, here is why it relates to this match. This match has two of the best tag teams that WWE currently has on their roster and both can go.  I predict a good 20 minute match (provided the E doesn’t screw that up)  and this match will rival what I just watched. This will be match of the night (no probably about it) and will steal the show. This is honestly the one I’m looking forward to the most.

Prediction: The Usos

Kent:  I think this match may be great, but mentally, I have a roadblock.  The Uso’s wouldn’t attack Roman in the retaliation and that made them look like lil bitches.  On top of that, Sheasaro is only in this because Shield Reunion part 2 had to happen, so they needed New Day, a team that lost to the Uso’s, to get them into this match.  Nobody, and I mean nobody at WWE is thinking along these lines, and if they did, they would be fired.  But this is deeper psychology.  The thing that you have to understand is that WWE is trying to build up The Uso’s as the best tag team in WWE and Sheasaro losing will be meaningless.  That’s how you know who to back.  With that being said, it would be interesting if Smackdown lost all of their matches prior to the men’s 5 on 5 as the main event.  Damnit, i talked myself into it.

Prediction: Sheasaro

  1.  Men’s 5 on 5 – Kurt, HHH, Braun, Joe, & Finn vs Shane, Randy, Shinsuke, Bobby, & Cena

Keri:  This match is the sole reason why I no longer watch WWE. It has everything that I hate about the promotion right now. Part timers, the same old storylines, and lots of ego stroking. There is nothing going on in this match that interests me. Except maybe the potential of 5 minute mini-matches between Finn and Nakamura, Finn and Bobby, Bobby and Joe, or Joe and Nakamura. Honestly, there is the talent that should be put over in this match. Braun should also get a chance to shine in this match and he probably will to an extent. But at the end of the day, this is going to be the Triple H, Cena, Kurt, and Shane show. And that is why I no longer care about the product.

Prediction: Team Smackdown because there has to be a reason for Angle vs Triple H at Mania.

Kent:  OK, this is my theory that I trademarked Wednesday on the podcast.  Cena and Braun are going to eliminate each other because that gets both of the unstoppable guys removed from the match, and sets up a feud for when Cena turns his back on Smackdown again.  What a dick he is!!!  Kurt and HHH seem destined to screw each other over.  I think that leaves us with Finn and Joe vs the other 4.  This would make sense given the writing of the past 2 weeks.  It’s subtle, but it is actually well written.  I think that they mount a comeback and take out Randy, Shinsuke, and Bobby, leaving the spotlight and that young up and comer, Shane…..what’s his last name?  Eh, it can’t be THAT important.  I can see Shinsuke going for a big kick and taking out Randy for instance, and the confusion, Shin also eats a pin or maybe Randy retaliates with and RKO.  You can see that playing out where Randy gets pinned and Shin tells him that he’s sorry and they shake hands but Randy doesn’t let go and then RKO out of nowhere, so Randy can go back to what he is best at .  That’s how you eliminate them.  Bobby could really use the rub here, buT I don’t think they will give it to him.  This seems destined for Shane to be sole survivor and bragging until Daniel gives him the business.

Prediction: Shane is sole survivor

  1.  Brock Lesnar vs AJ Styles

Keri:  I’m a firm believer that AJ Styles can get a good match out of anyone including Brock Lesnar. But the Brock Lesnar I’m referring to in this scenario is the Brock Lesnar of two years ago (think the Royal Rumble match with Cena and Rollins). The Brock Lesnar that we get today is the one that is there for the payday and nothing else. He hasn’t put on a good match in ages and just doesn’t have the endurance or desire to put on an AJ Styles caliber match. He will hit a few F5s and a few suplexses and in the end will win the match. Why you ask? Because of the money that WWE is paying him to be there. Brock is not the wrestler he once was and I don’t believe has the desire to be again. He knows he has the WWE wrapped around his finger and for that the rest of the talent has to suffer. With that said, I don’t expect this match to be anything special and I hate saying that about any AJ match.

Prediction: Brock will win because Vince needs to justify the big hit to his bank account.

Kent:  I know that a lot of you are talking yourselves into this match saying that AJ can’t have a bad match, unless Jinder is there.  You think, Brock can still go, and he may pull out moves since he’s working with the best in the business.  I get it, you are stupid.  It happens.  Brock ain’t pulling out 7 moves that are brawling tactics, suplexes, takedowns, and F5’s.  They have both wrestled in Japan, so expect multiple near falls.  Jinder will cost AJ this match.  That is inevitable and guaranteed and after gloating about costing AJ, he will get taken to Suplex City for his troubles and maybe Brock and AJ shake hands after.  Also, I think it is irresponsible of us to always blame Brock for his matches.  I feel that they are booked a certain way, and he likes that it doesn’t tear his body up, and if the boss is happy and his body is happy,

Prediction: Brrrrroccckk Lessssnar

  1.  Which match will main event?

Keri:  Men’s 5 on 5.

Kent:  Men’s 5 on 5 just because my theory of Smackdown losing every match until the main event to help inflate Shane’s ego seems like such a good way to keep the Daniel vs Shane feud going.

Bonus Deuce Deuce

  1. Which match are you most excited for?

Keri:  Usos vs Sheasaro.

Kent:  A trainwreck is still a trainwreck.  Men’s 5 on 5 will be a trainwreck and I will be sitting here with my popcorn.  

  1.  What do you think will be the worst of the 8 listed matches?

 Keri:  Both women’s matches.

Kent:  Women’s singles match.  The chemistry will not be very good.  Alexa needs time to get comfortable with her opponents.  That’s something that she is working on, but it is apparent anytime she faces somebody unfamiliar, or hasn’t wrestled against in a while.  Also, because of the dumbass.

  1.  Will Sami and KO do anything during Survivor Series?

Keri:  Nope. They are going to be in the back with the other deserving talent. You know Rusev, Gallows and Anderson, etc. You know the people that should be on the card..

Kent:  I would enjoy if they beat up Shane after the match, but I am in agreeance with Keri on the Nope and Rusev.

  1.  Pick another match to be on the pre-show.

Keri:  I have a wild idea. SamiKO vs Gallows and Anderson vs Rusev Day. That way we get those who should be on the card on the card even if it is the preshow. Sigh. Why am I going to watch this crap again?

Kent:  Cruiserweight 5 on 5 or G&A, Ginger Rhynos, & Elias vs Breezeango, The Ascension, & Rusev

Final Thoughts:

Keri:  This is going to be a trainwreck of a show but hopefully will have its good points. Maybe just maybe the WWE will win me back a little with some of the matches on this card. I doubt it but let’s be optimistic for once, shall we?

Kent:  I shit all over this show on the podcast, but the reality is, this should have some fun moments.  I love Survivor Series, and I am really going to try to take my smark glasses off and just enjoy the show and not be bitter for most of 4 hours until I hear a certain talentless hack’s music.  On the plus side, remember how awesome this team was?

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The Wrestling 9 Deuce – November 13 & 14, 2017 – It’s All About The Game Edition

Survivor Series is this Sunday, so we had the RAW and Smackdown go home shows.  They have done a really good job the past 3 weeks.  This will be easy to do and be super enjoyable, right?  Oh boy……it’s not.  Some ego stroking, some marriage proposal, Brock is laughing, RAW is invading, nobody on Smackdown seemed to really care to help, and much, much more nonsense.  Also, James Ellsworth got released this week, so much love for the man with 2 hands.   We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained which you can also subscribe to on iTunes.


The 9

  1. Why didn’t the ref DQ the Shield at the end of their match?  They were all in the ring for an unusually long amount of time attacking their opponent.

Russ:  The Ref was caught up in the nostalgia.  Seeing the Shield together for the first time in the ring in a match must have distracted the ref.  I mean it isn’t like WWE wrestling is fake and they can pick and choose what rules suit them at the time.  So he forgot to count which was very beneficial to the Shield.  

Keri:  Two words…..Roman Reigns. You remember the rule where you don’t DQ or do anything to the Cena. Well now that rule applies to the Reigns and the rest of the Shield. It’s kinda ridiculous and predictable.

Kent:  It’s as if WWE picks and chooses when they follow their own rules.  But that can’t be right…can it?

  1.   Why did they wait until 6 days to go before announcing HHH on Team RAW?

Russ:   Well, I really hope that this is leading to a HHH / Angle match at Mania.  They have a ton of potential story that comes from having HHH join the RAW Team.  How will Jason Jordan react.  What is going to happen between HHH and Angle to start them on a feud for the next several months.  Both teams are stacked, who will win?  I’m more interested in figuring out how WWE is going to fuck these stories up because that is what they do best.  Oh, why wait until 6 days?  Seriously,  WWE is scared that Survivor Series is going to tank because ratings have been shit.  They are throwing Haymakers at the wind right now hoping people will watch when we get big names.  

Keri:  Reasons? I love how Survivor Series is just one big show to set up Angle vs. Triple H. Just another show to stroke the McMahon family ego. That is all. Why put over new talent and build for the future? Nah, that just seems too easy. I don’t know about you all but I don’t want to see two guys who are past their prime and one guy that has no business in the ring in a match where no one younger gets put over. And you all wonder why I’ve abandoned watching this crap and have moved on to better stuff.

Kent:  Well, we knew that the seed was planted for Kurt vs HHH, but man, they must have used some Miracle Grow on this shit.  Miracle Grow, please sponsor us!  All of this to set up Jason Jordan as the big heel turn down the road to represent the evil empire known of The Authority.    Why did they wait?  Fuck if I know.  I still popped for HHH and if that makes me a horrible person, I accept that.  But you have to accept that HHH still knows how to build up a solid feud.

  1.   Why did they end RAW with a match that had no implications or storyline aspects toward Survivor Series?

Russ:   Holy shit this was horrible.  I have no idea why RAW ended in a non-Survivor Series Story, but what a horrible mistake this was.  Kane can’t perform like he used to.  He is just getting too old and it showed in the ring.  The match was cringeworthy.  I think this was one of Braun’s worst matches in a long time.  I don’t blame him for this mess, but he sure looked bad in this thanks to Old man Kane.  

Keri:  Two words plain and simple. Lazy writing. This was honestly a horrible go home show. All it did was focus on the return of Triple H. Oh, here I go again with my stroking the family ego theory. I’ll stop now.

Kent:  I have no words to describe this one.  Both Russ and Keri are right.  They should have saved the HHH announcement to end the show.  Kane doesn’t have it anymore, and that’s ok.  He shouldn’t be having this high of a profile feud.  Braun isn’t at a point where he can be the one who carries a match.  This was beyond Blunderdome material.

  1.   Why did they pick Bayley over Mickie when Bayley losing was the best storyline angle moving forward?  Also, why has Alexa gotten no shine this month so far?

Russ:   WWE is fucking stupid.  I was pissed when they put Bayley over Mickie.  Bayley not getting on the team would have sparked a major rise for Bayley as she decides to become this monster heel as she thinks everyone around her is just using her.  Man, what a wasted opportunity.  A rare miss on WWE’s part.  As for Alexa.  I guess because she had no competition she could fight with directly they kind of left her off.  Stupid of course as Alexa is one of the consistently best performers.  Man another rare miss by WWE.   I can’t believe that would happen twice in the same night.  

Keri:  Two words…Four Horsewomen. Did you seriously think they were going to keep Bayley out of this match? Oh you did. That’s cute. But honestly it doesn’t matter. This should be Asuka’s match to shine. She is supposed to the unstoppable one. She should be sole survivor on Sunday. Any other outcome and WWE will prove what I’ve been saying since I forged into a better world. Come on WWE. I dare you to prove me right.

Kent:  Because they hate creative writing?  Mickie deserved it and it played for the better story of Sasha turning heel in a couple of months.  It made soooo much sense.  And that is why this happened because when something makes too much sense, WWE steps in and says TA DAAAH like a shitty magician at a child’s birthday party.  I kinda want a magician for my birthday.  A sexy one, with a moustache.  (Russ: I know what I’m dressing up as for your birthday now!)

  1.  Why bother to bring back Bray just to job to Jason and then not even replace him on the team?  Seriously, what the fuck?  Yeah, we don’t WTF, we are bold and say it.

Russ:  Well WWE last week I asked you for one thing.  Keep Bray off my screen until he can finish what he started with sister Abigail.  They couldn’t even do that for me.  So instead we get this twisted Bray who is a monster (I don’t know how that is because I can’t remember the last time he won a match.)  Still the match was decent.  Jordan did a good job with the ankle injury.  They couldn’t replace Jordan with Bray because Bray is just as much a jobber as Jordan is maybe even more so.  Sad, sad day when that is true.  

Keri:  This week Bray was just cannon fodder for the ego stroking that I alluded to earlier. Hell, so was Jason Jordan if you think about it. This Jason Jordan storyline is stupid. He looks weak. And isn’t believable at all as a strong singles star. He is the best example of the WWE taking someone who had potential (as part of a tag team) and ruining them. But back to the question at hand, as I said before cannon fodder. This PPV is about setting up our yearly dose of Triple H. Nothing more, nothing less.

Kent:  I could have answered every question so far with an emphatic I don’t know.  Why bring him back for this? Wait one fucking week you fucking imbeciles.  I don’t care if he’s supposed to be punished, then have him in a money match with Finn and job cleanly and quickly.  Whatever.  Don’t fucking do this.  This doesn’t help anybody because now you have to re-raise his value for him to help get Finn over, or did you fucktards in Stamford forget.  FUCK!

  1.  Wow, what an absolutely awful retaliation.  Where in the blue hell was Cena, Randy, Rusev, Aiden, Jinder, and AJ?  Where was HHH?  Why was there no focus on the Uso’s being hesitant to attack Roman by the commentators?  Why didn’t Braun do a powerslam on Shane despite staying in the ring for however long?  Was Bobby Roode even out there?  Where was Bray and Jason Jordan?  Yeah, tackle that whole garbage heap of a segment.

Russ:  In 4 weeks WWE has done something amazing.  They have turned an intriguing story into it’s normal garbage heap of a story.  The was the three weeks prior have played out were so good.  WWE was doing an amazing job of telling this invasion angle and in a segment that was about 15 minutes long they destroyed everything.  That is simply amazing.  Half of the Smackdown men’s team wasn’t there to defend Smackdown’s honor (as if any of them actually give a fuck.)  HHH wasn’t there which completely baffles me.  He joined the RAW team because he thought Angle’s response to the invasion was weak.  So when they finally do go and invade Smackdown… he isn’t there?  He should have been leading the charge, I mean that is why he put himself in the match right?  Fucking stupid!  They built this brand feud up so well and in the last week they totally fuck it up.  Well I guess I shouldn’t be surprised this is what WWE does best.  

Keri:  I don’t know where to start with this segment. It was a mess and that’s kinda how both go home shows were this week and unwatchable mess. I’m not going to waste anymore time on it. Kinda like Creative did when booking this thing.

Kent:  They don’t care anymore.  I guess my long winded question basically sums up how I am feeling.Depressed that THIS was the go home show.

  1.  Charlotte won the women’s belt.  Just what in the fuck is happening?

Russ:  Wow, WWE is so afraid of this PPV failing that they are trying to shake things up to generate interest.  Hey WWE you don’t have to change champions to do that, just give us logical coherent stories!  As for Charlotte winning.  What a fucking waste.  Oooo she won in her hometown.  Ooooo her father came out to celebrate with her!  What a moment!  (that we will forget happened in less than a year.)  The only bright spot in all of this was that Charlotte genuinely looked surprised to see her dad (she had to know he was there)  so I guess her acting isn’t as bad as I thought.  

Keri:  Ok this decision kinda makes sense. Which would you rather see Natty vs Alexa or Charlotte vs Alexa? Charlotte vs Alexa is the better match in the long run. Which is probably why this was booked the way it was. That and Ric was there and you have to be fair to Flair.

Kent:  Donkey raping shit eater.  That’s a South Park reference.

  1.  SamiKO appear to not have any match or storyline heading into this monstrous PPV.  Is this smart or ……well use any adjective you like?

Russ:  Troubling.  With everything that is going on with these two I’m afraid they may just up and quit WWE.  Now I know they both have strong ties to HHH, but HHH doesn’t run the company.  Sami and KO are two of the best performers in the WWE.  The fact that they aren’t on this PPV is embarrassing, but what is worse is that they aren’t taking it lying down (not worse for them, they are protecting themselves, worse for us).  They have been making a stink backstage and “going into business” for themselves to a point where they were told to go home from a tour.  All of this added up equals SamiKO not lasting too much longer.  I hope I’m wrong, because if SamiKO isn’t in the WWE that is one more step closer to being out the door I am too.  

Keri:  Wasteful.  Very very wasteful. I did like how they rolled out of the ring when the Shield got to the ring though. They basically said yeah we are buried enough right now, no point of getting fed to the Roman.

Kent:  Incompetent is too kind, so not going with it.  Unreasonable is what I will use.  I am so glad that they bailed during that awful clusterfuck.  In a way, it was the smartest booked section of the show.  Yup, those 3 seconds were smart.  I want to reiterate, Sami, KO, Jinder, Dolph, and Rusev are not involved in any matches Sunday.  Shane McMahon, John Cena, HHH, and Kurt Angle are.  Bray Wyatt, Elias, Jason jordan, Kane, and Bo Dallas don’t have matches, but HHH, Kurt, Shane, and Cena do.  Gallows and Anderson, The Ascension, Breezeango, the entire 205 division minus Enzo and Kalisto, Mickie James, American Beta, The Bludgeon Brothers, and the Titus Brand don’t have any matches…….fuck.

  1.  Are The Uso’s face?  Are American Omega faces?  Will the Bludgeon Brothers make an impact on the tag division by the end of the year?

Russ:  So they’re American Omega now? (Kent: Sometimes one needs to mock that which another person loves so they can have witty banter back and forth.  We could go back to Beta, but Omega allows Keri more opportunities to shit all over the current WWE product and who am I to deny her that privelege?)  I liked Beta, but this team-up is proving to be superior to American Alpha so I guess.  I will also keep this short like my fellow writers.  Uso’s are tweeners, which fits them.  I’m not sure about AO anymore.  I guess we’ll find out after Survivor Series.  The Bludgeon Brothers making an impact on the Division….. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….no, but seriously HAAHHAHAHAHAHA… oh man, yeah, no they aren’t doing shit.  

Keri:  I will keep this short: 1. Don’t know. 2. Don’t care. Wrong Omega for me to care enough to have an opinion. 3. Are you kidding me? With the current state of tag team booking. That is just too funny.

Kent:  Yes, Yes, No

Bonus Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  I thought this was pretty decent for the first 2 hours.  The start of the 3rd hour was ok, but the last 20 minutes was just painful.  Also, why the fuck would WWE end RAW without any invasions and instead end it with a horrendous match instead.  5.3 worst show in awhile, but still better than the crap we have been getting consistently the past 10 months.  

Keri:  How does WWE keep doing this? Having crappy go home shows. Nothing that happened last night made me excited about this Sunday. We had ego stroking and predictability. Not that any of that was surprising to me mind you. Rating: 2.5

Kent:  Nope

  1.  Rate Smackdown

Russ:  What a terrible way to go home for Survivor Series.  Seriously, this show sucked.  Rating: 2.9 (Reverse Deuce!)

Keri:  Another bad go home show. I mean the AJ-Daniel Bryan segment was great but outside of that it was meh. Rating: 2.5

Kent:  Not Doing It


Final Thoughts

Russ:  I cannot wait to see this shit show PPV!  In all honesty, I’m sure there will be some fun matches, but they just ruined everything for me on Smackdown.  Plus not to mention all the SamiKO crap that is going down.  I fear that a WWE without those two may be a WWE I don’t want to watch.  

Keri:  7 weeks until Wrestle Kingdom 12. I’m still excited for getting up at 3 am to watch it. I can’t say I would say the same thing for anything WWE related right now well except maybe War Games. I have to admit it. I’m curiously intrigued.

Kent:  Well, still better than Japanese wrestling and indies.  This shit splattered mess is still better.  That’s how far behind the industry is as a whole.  That’s fucking sad.  Why do I keep watching?  I’ll tell you why.  For my hope that this story happens.  We will call it the “True Men of Honor” story.

SamiKO have already planted the seeds.  The one thing that WWE could do right now that would light up the fans is to redo the NWO angle, but this time have it revolve around the indie guys.  The thing with this is that it would last a full year and resolve itself at next year’s Survivor Series.  This story would start with SamiKO, but think about all of the indie guys that WWE has.  Also, don’t involve the women in this.  Think of something good for them, except for Charlotte.  The True Men of Honor really is Shane getting pissed at SamiKO, and they tell Shane to bring his 3 best men, and they will have a 3rd member.  The 3rd member can be a multitude of guys because they can take anybody from NXT with indie ties, or an AJ, but the best choice is Daniel Bryan.  He hits some moves and gets the win over Shane, AJ, and Randy/Cena/Shinsuke whoever.  Daniel does some Yes kicks on Shane and pins him so Daniel never takes a bump.  Daniel isn’t required to wrestle this whole time.  If he gets permission, I’d still limit it.  This will just be the beginning.  On RAW, think about all of the guys who could be in the group: Cesaro, Dean, Seth Joe are the 4 big ones.  Well, I would bring somebody like Khassius Ohno up from NXT for Cesaro to reform that greatness.  This group would take out everyone, well except you need to have a Sting.  Interestingly enough, this guy has a finisher similar to Sting.  Make it Bray Wyatt.  Hell, you can have The Balor Club thing happen, only for Cody to return and steal Gallows and Anderson back.  Maybe Finn recruits AJ to even the odds.  At it’s crux, you must use Roman, Cena, Randy, The Miz, Brock, and Braun to get this over.  The night after Wrestlemania, when the WWE guys have triumphed and HHH is bragging about winning the war, the True Men Of Honor have a surprise to even the odds.  Cult of Personality hits and CM Punk comes out and hits HHH.  Make this a nice slow burn and you have a masterpiece that sells itself.  You can still bring your people up from NXT, like Drew and the new trio with the ROH guys, Roderick Strong, Aleistar Black, etc.  This angle prints money and finally allows some guys to get over, mainly Sami, Cesaro, and Bray.  Cody would also be a major player in this and I think Finn, AJ, and Shinsuke would too.  I know this will NEVER happen, and they would rather give us this week’s nonsense, but a man can dream.

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The Wrestling 9 Deuce – November 6 & 7, 2017 – AJ & Sheasaro Win belts! Edition

Titles changed hands this week as AJ STyles pinned Jinder and Sheasaro beat the whole Shield.  On top of that Elias and Jason had a guitar on a pole math, New Day invaded RAW, Alicia chose Sasha to the team, Finn and Joe fought and then were both added to the team along with Kurt’s son, while usev lost in his bid to make Team Smackdown and the very next day day Cena made the team by doing NOTHING!  Sami and KO were sent home from the tour, Paige never showed up, James Storm has left TNA, and Keri hates WWE so she is off touching butts with JerichOmega, better known as the Asian Persuasian. Yes, I know that isn’t spelled properly as it has Asian in it twice, so suck a dick!  We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained which you can also subscribe to on iTunes.


The 9

  1.  Alicia Fox has named Asuka as her 3rd member of her Survivor Series team.  Is there any way in hell that Asuka doesn’t win this match?  Also, Sasha is now the 4th member, but Bayley didn’t get the invite.

Russ:  With Asuka on the team it now seems like it is inevitable that the RAW women are winning this thing.  I mean unless WWE wants to ruin whatever special thing they have going for Asuka, I wouldn’t put it past them.  I’m willing to bet Asuka will be the Sole Survivor.  As for Bayley not getting invited to be on team RAW, I like it.  That is good storytelling.  How will Bayley respond to this snub?  I kind of want to see how this will play out.  

Kent:  Well, the men’s RAW team seems destined to lose to force the Kurt Angle vs HHH storyline.  So the RAW women will win.  As for Asuka, they could theoretically be cool and have her get DQ’d for whooping on somebody or getting counted out trying to kill James Ellsworth.  That would have happened 25 years ago, but not in today’s WWE.  Also, I love the tension between Bayley and Sasha and I still think it explodes at the Royal Rumble when Bayley eliminates Sasha.

  1.  Should the Elias and Jason Jordan feud end now that we have had the guitar on a pole match?

Russ:  Please yes.  This has been a good little feud that has run its course.  Jordan has proven he can go in the ring, but he sucks as a face.  He needs to go heel in the worst way.  I think that will help his character building.  If it doesn’t then I’m done with him.  Elias was great throughout this thing and he deserves to get a push into the upper mid card.  Plus the match was just stupid.

Kent:  It should keep going, and I will tell you why.  This feud is the most must see thing on WWE because the commentary team goes out of it’s way to make it special.  Booker doesn’t like Jason Jordan’s special treatment.  Corey and Cole are great with Elias.  More importantly,  neither guy has an obvious next match up.

  1.  Do you agree with the decision to not have Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt, or Kane on the RAW team?  Also add thoughts on Joe, Finn, and Jordan being added to the team.

Russ:  I agree with the decision to not have Roman Reigns.  See my next response for the answer to that point.  As for Bray and Kane.  I don’t want them ruining my Sister Abigail moment, so keep him off tv until after Survivor Series.  Kane, I guess he would have been a better choice than Jordan.  However, I’m all for Joe and Finn being on the team.  Their match was fantastic on RAW.   The kind of fantastic that I want to see more and hope that a feud is brewing.  They were a great tag team on NXT so I think that will play a little bit into this.  (When did Joe and Finn tag together in NXT?  Russ, have you been drinking? Russ: Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic. Kent: Ohhhh yeah.)  Jordan joining smells like a heel turn is a coming.  

Kent:  It would have perhaps made more sense to do a battle royale to determine the 5th member, but Kurt’s favortism is going to lead to a big story I think with HHH leading Jason to the dark side.  Actually, I am okay with it because Smackdown’s team sucks in comparison.

  1.  Why did the WWE give Sheasaro the belts back?

Russ:  Alright, so the reason they gave Sheasaro the belts completely revolves around the fact that Roman will be back next week.  With Roman coming back before Survivor Series I have a feeling we will be getting The Shield reunion at Survivor Series.  Who will be their opponents?  Well the guys who cost Rollins and Ambrose the belts.  The New Day of course.  I am totally for this.  The New Day are opponents who The Shield should be reuniting to fight against.  That should be a great match.  

Kent:  I do like Russ’ idea, and it would give New Day something to do.  There, I gave a compliment.  Can we get ZaynKO vs Uso’s next week and make my dream a reality?

  1.  What should the WWE do with the UK Championship division?

Russ:  This is a tough question.  I would say give them an hour show on the Network, but I can’t say that I would actually sit down and watch it.  I already watch 5 – 10 hours of wrestling a week.  I don’t want to add another hour to that.  Still I think that may be the best direction for them.  It wouldn’t be too costly, because they can package is as an indy type show and have the matches in smaller venues.  Maybe tape two shows from one night.  I mean I like a lot of the guys in the UK division.  So I would like to have a chance to see more of them.  

Kent:  Do an hour long weekly show on the Network and air it Thursday’s.  Pre-record 4 episodes at a time.  Then have 2 UK Division PPV’s a year, especially have one when WWE goes to the UK, duhhhh.  This is kinda simple.  Much like NXT, I would watch this.  I still struggle with watching 205.

  1.  AJ Styles defeated Jinder for the Blue Belt.  1) Did WWE panic here by taking Jinder out of the match with Brock? 2) Did Jinder’s run as world champ accomplish anything positive in your opinion?

Russ:   First, let me get this off my chest:  Jinder was finally hindered by AJ Styles.  Okay, now I want to start by saying that this match was actually good.  It was Jinder’s best match since getting the belt (maybe his best match ever.)  If he was producing matches similar to this throughout his entire run then we might have some positives to take away from Jinder’s run as champ.  Unfortunately, that isn’t the case.  WWE totally panicked, with good reason.  If they wanted the Champion vs Champion match to be the headliner of Survivor Series then Jinder isn’t going to be a good choice.  He hasn’t headlined any PPV since becoming champion, so what made WWE think having him headline a major PPV was a good idea?  So WWE did what WWE does best, fix mistakes in a panic.  I’m totally behind this move, because now I’m interested in the match at least (I mean until AJ jobs to Brock, then I’ll be pissed.)  As for the last part Jinder’s run accomplished two things in my opinion.  1.)  It totally devalued the WWE Title Belt and 2.) It may have helped fans from India want to tune in more.  I don’t know for sure since I don’t have any data to back this up, but would WWE keep the belt on him for so long if there wasn’t at least some positive from it?  

Kent:  1. Obviously they panicked and realized that the vast majority of fans weren’t soaking their panties for Jinder vs Brock in the same way that fans may for something like JerichOmega match.  Poor decision WWE>  Brock tossing the Singh Bros would have been tremendously satisfying and this could have worked.  Plus all the hype and build up is now gone.  On top of that, there’s no reason for AJ and Brock to fight.  This all started because Jinder challenged Brock long before it was known what the format for Survivor Series would be, as in all champ vs champ matches.  2) Yeah, he got the Singh Bros over as really good henchmen.  He finally had a good match against AJ and looked like he almost got it.  Like he’s finally at midcard champion level, which is where he should have long been.  Over the past 10 years, you are going to struggle finding a champion who put on as consistently poor matches despite thehigh level of opponents.  Jinder physically looks great, but sorry, I don’t have much for positives.

  1.  Sami doesn’t seem to be winning any more frequently since his heel turn.  Is it a matter of timing or is there no interest in having him be a winner in WWE’s eyes?

Russ:  I’m going to say that timing is a major factor that plays into Sami losing here.  Even though Smackdown has done a good job progressing storylines outside of Survivor Series to move toward December they are still in a holding pattern.  With that said they really can’t move Sami and KO forward until after Survivor Series and they can get the full attention of Shane and whoever else they are supposed to go up against.  Sami is a major player, or at least he really should be and I think WWE knows this.  I’m hoping things will pick up for ZaynKO after Survivor Series.  

Kent:  I’m hoping that it’s timing.  Then I hear that they got sent home from the European tour and I worry..  The reports are coming out of various theories but NOTHING is solid as to what happened as of yet.  Don’t be a moron and believe everything that is initially reported.  WIth that being said, it’s a case of now or never after Survivor Series to get serious about pushing Sami.  There’s only so much credibility that a wrestler can have, despite what WWE will try to make you believe.  Sami has a chance, but we gotta get past Survivor Series.  I wouldn’t be shocked if Sami never gets the push and actually fear that to be the case.  On a separate topic, I am telling you that Sami Zayn is winning this year’s Royal Rumble!!!

  1.  Should WWE have brought Paige back Tuesday?  What was accomplished by having Carmella kick Ellsworth after the match?

Russ:  I honestly don’t care about Paige either way unless she is involved in a triple threat match with Brad Maddox and Xavier woods (Dead Horse Beaten again!)  I’m also not sure why they had Carmella kick Ellsworth either.  I can surmise a few guesses though.  First, maybe they are breaking them up and this is how that starts.  Second, maybe Ellsworth likes it rough and Carmella saw an opportunity to give him the rough stuff he so desires.  Either way it was stupid.  

Kent:  Yes, yes they absolutely missed a huge opportunity for paige to make a huge impact and get the fans to possibly support the Smackdown women.  Then at Survivor Series, have Paige and Asuka get a double count out.  Nah, that’s too logical.  Nothing was accomplished by Carmella’s kick.  Survivor Series booking defies logic every F’N  year.

  1.  Rusev dominated his match against Randy and then Cena booking occurred and Rusev is no longer involved in Survivor Series despite being a leader in the siege along with New Day.  What gives?

Russ:  First of all worst Rusev Day ever!  I still can’t understand why WWE treats Rusev as a jobber.  If you don’t think Rusev is a jobber then you don’t watch too many of his matches.  He loses all the time when it counts.  Rusev and Aiden have been killing it.  I know it is the job of the heel to make the faces look good, but when the heels consistently knock their segments out of the park you expect them to get a few good wins under their belt.  WWE  seems to hate Rusev.  Which is a real shame because the Bulgarian Bruiser has a lot more talent than the majority of the roster.  I fear in the next few years Rusev won’t be a part of the WWE.  Which will be a major loss for them.  

Kent:  I don’t even believe in Rusev Day anymore.  I think my parents lied to me about Rusev being a dominant wrestler.  Rusev’s push is as real as Santa.  This is such a fucking joke.  I can’t stand how Rusev, Jinder, KO, Sami, and Dolph have no matches, but Cena and Shane do.  Fucking terrible booking.

Bonus Deuce Deuce

  1. Rate Raw:

Russ:  I’m impressed.  RAW has been entertaining for three straight weeks.  This was a little different though.  This week the matches really shined instead of any story.  Finn / Joe,  The Tag Title Match, Braun / The Miz.  This was all good stuff.  Rating:  6.4

Kent:  3 very good matches, a bit of story, and a guitar on a pole match.  I was fairly Kentertained.  Let’s go with a 6.

  1.  Rate Smackdown – Also give thoughts on Cena being added to Team Smackdown

Russ:  I’m not sure why Cena would join Smackdown as he blatantly left Smackdown to go to RAW so he could fight Roman a few months back.  Giving him free agent status is fucking stupid.  Putting him on the team fucks everything up for the other talent that busts their ass every week.  Oh Smackdowns rating?  Let’s say 4.6.  It wasn’t bad, but it definitely wasn’t that good either.  

Kent:  Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Fuck Cena.  Smackdown gets 3.7 as I was less than impressed by their storytelling.

Final Thoughts

Russ: It appears WWE is already souring on the Bludgeon Bros idea.  WHY!  They haven’t even given us a chance to see them!  I’m all for a cheesy gimmick if they can deliver it in a fun way.  Luke and Rowan are a great tag team.  Let them do their work in the ring in front of enough audiences and people will respond.  

Kent:  Luke Harper is going to be in an episode of USA’s Damnation.  Consider me intrigued.  I love Luke and won’t ever give up on him.  I liked the first episode and think that this show has legit potential.

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The Wrestling 9 Deuce – October 30 & 31, 2017 – The Garbage Juice Edition

This week we had some big name returns on RAW, but most importantly, a man rose from the garbage pile and returned a more crazed monster among men.  The seeds are officially planted for Kurt vs HHH.  Over on Smackdown, Baron and Sin Cara is building up nicely and the Dolph vs Bobby feud potentially came to a finish.  We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained which you can also subscribe to on iTunes, and give our picks for TLC.


The 9

  1. Give me your thoughts on the opening segment involving Kurt’s apology and Stephanie McMahon.

Russ:  This was well done.  They used Steph in the best way possible.  She is always very intense so this came out as no surprise.  I really like how they are telling this story.  The megalomaniac McMahons are trying to stroke their ego’s by being the best around.  Everyone else is just trying to weather the storm.  Daniel last week not knowing or agreeing with the Siege.  Now Kurt is caught in it because of his failure to think Shane was up to something.  This is one of the best storylines WWE has had in a long time.  I hope they can continue this for a few more weeks.  If they can Survivor Series could be a must see PPV.  

Keri:  Long segment was long. The apology just made Kurt seem weak. No wonder Stephanie had to come out and light a fire under his ass. Stephanie, well she was her usually self. At first, I groaned when she came out but then I was ok with it. She kinda saved the segment except for the shilling the 25th anniversary stuff.

Kent:  I liked it.  I know that Steph never gets her true comeuppance and I have long acknowledged that nothing is changing that.  I guess you utilize Kurt for as long as you can.  It would seem like this is the beginning of the build up to Kurt vs HHH.  If so, I can dig that.

  1.   The Ginger Rhynos took on G&A in a Trick R Street Fight.  Yes, we all love Southpaw.  Was this match good fun or was it brutal to watch?

Russ:   I’m going to say it was silly, but fun.  I didn’t even know this was going to happen.  So I had no expectations.  With Commentary on fire lately and during this match they were spectacular.  This helped add to the match.  I thought what they gave us was fun that is all it had to be.  

Keri:  You know what bothers me. The fact that when Gallows and Anderson came into the WWE they were booked as complete badasses. They got a very short title run and then we’re pretty much discarded or made a joke after that. It’s BS which is why I didn’t care for the match. They, well both teams actually, should be doing better things not in wrestling in some gimmick match after not being on TV (or a PPV) for weeks. Oh well I guess I should just be happy they were on the show at all.

Kent:  I really wanted to ask a question on the commentary team, but I think it is safe to say that the Cole, Corey, and Booker team are killing it with a lot of the things that they are doing.  This match was fun and you can enjoy this when you have no expectations.  This was silly and I bet the kids loved it.  So I had a lot of fun.

  1.   Better women’s segment: Nia’s return match against Bayley or Mickie vs Alexa?

Russ:   Definitely going to go with Nia vs Bayley on this one.  Alexa and Mickie’s match was good, but the crowd wasn’t into it.  They were waiting for Braun and it was noticeable.  Nia vs Bayley on the other hand was also a good match, but I liked how Nia was presented here.  She was dominant.  I also really enjoyed Foxy.  She was very funny as the “Captain”.  

Keri:  Honestly kinda bored with both storylines. So neither segment for me actually.  I’ve seen Nia vs Bayley and the whole Mickie is an old lady is just well old. Seriously, the only thing of value that happens was Foxy being Foxy. And Asuka vs a local Indy girl? Seriously, you couldn’t have had booked her against Sasha or something. Now there is a match up we have seen yet.

Kent:  Both were incredibly effective.  I will go with that Bliss and Mickie match as it was really good stuff.  I really enjoyed the William Regal knockout finisher.  I hope that she had a pair of brass knucks on her.  Alicia is doing God’s work at the moment and I look forward to more from her.

  1.   Is this Braun vs Miztourage/Kane thing working for you?

Russ:   I thought this whole story was very well done.  I like the subtle hints left behind.  I like how Kane and Sheasaro both left The Miz to deal with his own problems.  Then having Braun come out of the back of the dumpster at the end was just fantastic.  Braun is definitely the number 1 face on RAW.  It seems like WWE is poised to put him in that spot.   Just look at what they are doing to build up Kane just to fall at Brauns feet in a month or so.  Will WWE actually make him the best of the best?  No, his name isn’t Roman Reigns.  

Keri:  I’m very indifferent towards this “feud.” I mean unless it’s leading to a Braun IC title reign, I just don’t care. Sorry but Miz is one dimensional wrestler and I’m bored with him now. He brings nothing to the title anymore. The tandem of Bo and Axle why aren’t they getting in on some tag team action All three have the makings of a great potentially dominate stable if Creative would get their head out of the Shield’s ass long enough to learn how to book them properly. Oh well moving on.

Kent:  Well, it’s sorta like the WWE is acknowledging that Braun is their number 1 face.  I mean, they built up Kane so much, including the burial of Finn last week, which I still can’t comprehend.  Until Braun takes the belt off of Brock in the true acknowledgement of greatness, I won’t be believing WWE’s intentions.  Also, Miz vs Matt was a quality match.  I actually enjoyed the silliness of the angle.  Everybody sold it well.

  1.  SPOILERS ahead!!!  Rumor has it that Survivor Series big men’s 5 on 5 match will consist of Kurt, Braun, Roman, Samoa Joe, and Finn taking on Shane, Randy, AJ, Shinksuke, and Bobby Roode.  Were these the right guys and does this lead you to believe that Kent may get his wish of Sheasaro vs ZaynKO?

Russ:  With this set up I honestly can’t see how RAW would lose this, but it is WWE they had 2 members of The Shield and Old Man Kurt beat 5 of the best heels in the business so what do I know.  Still these teams should produce a pretty fun match so I’m down with it.  As for Kent getting his wish.  Let’s just say now that Junetober is over maybe Kent will get something he, and really all of us, deserves in Shesaro vs ZaynKO.  

Keri:  The only way I will be ok with this is if Joe, Finn, Shinsuke, and AJ do the majority of the heavy lifting and are showcased for the majority of the match. But you know what though? I’m not going to get that at all. I’m going to get Shane doing stupid spots, a guy that probably shouldn’t be in the ring anymore, and Roman picking up the win with a spear. Why do I have Roman as sole survivor? Because losing to Roman is like the WWE title, everyone gets a turn. A wise man said that recently I just can’t remember who it was (but I hear he’s in Japan).  As for Kent’s dream match, I’m on board with the idea of it. It will be match of the night because this card kinda blows.

Kent:  I am holding on to 2014 a bit, but I wish Dolph was on the team over Bobby or Shane. I am really getting excited for the possibility of my dream tag match happening.  The smarter move would be to have Sheasaro, Kane, and G&A vs ZaynKO, Tye, and The Ascension.  Then give us the Ginger Rhynos, Matt, Jason, and Apollo vs Breezedango and New Day.  My card kicks ass.

  1.  In your opinion, what is the best case outcome with the Breezedango, Ascension, and Bludgeon Brothers story?

Russ:  Well the best case outcome is that all the teams involved get actual pushes.  I’m not saying they all deserve a shot at the titles, but I hope that it will translate into the crowds reacting appropriately when they see these teams actually wrestling.  That is the best thing you can hope for with any team.  The Fashion Files has been a hit, but they haven’t allowed it to transfer to the ring yet.  I want to start seeing these teams in matches now to see how the crowd reacts to them.  

Keri:  Not sure about where they are going with all of this or where it leads to in the future. Probably no where because WWE has no idea how to book tag teams. With that said, it is pretty obvious that they are using the recent Fashion Files episodes to build up for the Bludgeon Brothers debut. I do have two questions though. First, are they going to use those hammers during matches? And second, how happy was Kent with the ending of Strangerer Things?

Kent:  Honestly, I have no clue.  The best case for me is that at least one team gets over and is a solid foundation piece for the tag division.  I don’t have high hopes for this thing, but maybe I am being pessimistic.  I can’t stand what was done to Luke earlier this year, so I am fearing this.  They have tried Luke and Rowan as faces going against the other as a heel.  Neither worked too well.  If Rowan doesn’t figure it out this time, I think he is gone, and I can see Luke going with him.

  1.  Do you hope that this Sin Cara feud extends beyond Survivor Series?

Russ:  This feud has far exceeded my expectations.  To be fair, I had none to start with.  However,  they are telling a nice story here and I like how they keep adding small layers to it.  This helps to build anticipation for when they meet for the US Title in a climactic way.  Do I hope it extends beyond Survivor Series?  I just hope that it continues to be a good build up, until the appropriate time for the pay off.  If that is before or after Survivor Series makes no difference for me.  

Keri:  The one thing on Smackdown that I care about right now. Why?  Because it’s new and interesting. Also, I hope Sin Cara beats the crap out of Corbin and possibly gets the title. Why? Because taking a mask off a luchador is so so disrespectful and Corbin needs to learn respect.

Kent:  I am enjoying this even more than I anticipated.  The rough and tumble style is working here and they are telling a solid story.  Please, continue giving me stories that progress and make sense.  I won’t complain.

  1.  Who would you have Bobby Roode feud with now that this Dolph feud appears to be over with?

Russ:  I’m not sure to be honest.  The heel side of the roster seems to be occupied.  However, I’d like to see Sami vs Bobby.  Sami needs a good feud to propel him into his new found heel sensibilities.  Same thing could be said for Bobby.  Last nights match was good for him, but he needs a well told story feud to get his face push off to the races.  Sami is the type of opponent who can offer that for him.  

Keri:  Let’s see. How about Shinsuke vs. Roode? It worked on NXT. We don’t want him with AJ because that would take AJ away from Jinder. And we want Jinder away from the WWE belt.

Kent:  That is tough.  Right now it appears that WWE wants to push Jinder, Sami, and KO, so that leaves little on the heel side of things, and Shinsuke needs to stay relevant.  I would say Bobby vs AJ wouldn’t hurt.  Maybe this is the thing that puts Bobby over as a heel.

  1.  Would you be interested in a Rusev Day (Rusev & Aiden) vs New Day or Uso’s feud?

Russ:  I’m for anything that involves Rusev Day!  Rusev and Aiden are consistently the best performers on my TV on Tuesdays.  Everyday is Rusev Day even the New Day will become Rusev Day.  

Keri:  Rusev Day and the New Day could be fun. Just think of the promo work from both sides. Alright, now that I’m thinking about that I sold. Also, I like the name. It’s better than anything I came up with for Aiden and Rusev.

Kent:  Rusev is the most versatile heel at the moment.  You can put him in a team and get over or have him in singles and get over.  I really love Smackdown’s tag division at the moment, so I don’t want him getting lost in the shuffle, but jobbing to Shinsuke or AJ won’t get him any more over at the moment.  The tag division offers something that may give back.

Bonus Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  I thought RAW was pretty darn good this week.  Several good matches.  The two main stories of the evening played out well.   I hope this is a sign for what the future holds for us.  I mean I doubt it, WWE is terrible when it comes to consistency, but a boy can dream.  Rating: 7  

Keri:  Good show with exciting returns. Not too much else to say because I didn’t watch and I’m going by recaps. Rating: 6

Kent:  Wow, one of the 2 or 3 best RAWs of the year.  This was fun all the way around.  I don’t know if I have given a 7.2 rating this year, but here we are.  I thoroughly enjoyed this show from top to bottom.  Bonus points for Drew getting more time.

  1.  Rate Smackdown

Russ:  Smackdown had its ups and downs.  Rusev and Aiden are fantastic and need more screen time.  Fashion Files was again ok.  They aren’t hitting out of the park, but it is amusing.  The 2 out of 3 falls match was really good, except having the second fall happen during the commercial.  The rest of the show was adequate.  Rating: 5.6  

Keri:  Another so so week for Smackdown. I think Shinsuke and Kevin should have had more time. I came into Roode-Ziggler late (as I was finishing up Stranger Things) but it looked good. Fashion files was good. Rusev made me mad by ruining Halloween Candy. Oh and I found Waldo multiple times during the show. Rating: 5

Kent:  I liked more than I disliked.  The matches were all good. I feel bad for the Women’s division to be honest. They mostly deserve better, except Charlotte. Natty is in the midst of a terrible reign as champ. Still, a 5.7 feels right.

Final Thoughts – Also do you like it when segments intertwine like they did in RAW?  The examples are Samoa Joe’s entrance during the women’s celebration and Alexa’s celebration/Braun and Miztourage.

Russ:  Answering the question:  I think segment intertwining has its place in WWE, but not always.  I thought it was great when Braun and the Miztourage came barreling out from the back during the final match, but Joe coming out during Nia’s felt out of place.  That should have been a surprise that started when we came back from commercial break.  Final Thought:  Stranger Things is back with its second season.  I’m trying not to binge watch it.  But putting it on the first hours of RAW and Smackdown and then speeding through them has made this past Monday and Tuesday some of the best nights of TV I’ve seen in a long while.  I just hope RAW and Smackdown can keep up the good stuff.   

Keri:  NJPW Power Struggle is this Sunday. I can’t wait. This show will be better than Survivors Series. The question is will I get up at 5:30 to watch it? Seriously 5:30 am to watch wrestling. I’m going to need lots of coffee if I go through with this. As for the question, I didn’t hate it but I also didn’t like it. Kinda meh about which sums up my feelings on the WWE for the week.

Kent:  Well I’m pretty pissed off about Emma’s release. In regards to intertwining, it feels more like the Attitude era in some ways. I do dig it.

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The Wrestling 9 Deuce – October 23 & 24, 2017 – Under Siege Edition

TLC  is over and so we get on the hype train to Survivor Series with Smackdown getting the first blow in their remake of #UnderSiege.  Steven Seagal is impressed….I think.  The mumps are like Hulkamania as they are running wild.  Russ, Keri, and Kent break down the week that was in wrestling.   We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained which you can also subscribe to on iTunes, and give our picks for TLC.


The 9

  1. Let’s kick this off with the biggest story to come out of RAW this week, Alicia Fox is the RAW Women’s team captain after defeating Bayley and Sasha in a triple threat match.  Give me your thoughts on this match and who do you think will fill out the rest of the RAW team?

Russ:  Foxy being team captain should be lots of fun.  When the RAW team wins I hope they continue the story of her brave captaining after Survivor Series.  As for the rest of the team.  It would asinine not to include Asuka so that should be happening.  I also think Sasha and Bailey are locks.  This leaves one place and several ladies.  I think it either has to go to Emma or Mickie.  Emma is the more interesting choice so I hope they go that route, but I can definitely see why they would pick Mickie.  I’m going to say Emma because the dynamic with her and the others makes for a better story.   

Keri:  Good for Foxy. It’s about time she got to do something good. With that said, it really doesn’t matter who the leader is because Asuka is going to steamroll over everyone on team Smackdown. The match itself was good.

Kent:  I am sooooo damn happy.  This was awesome!  Alicia will now get some shine.  Who fills out the roster?  You have Asuka, Emma, Dana, Mickie, and Nia possibly.  Asuka seems like a lock.  Assuming that it’s a 5 on 5 match, with Ellsworth involved, that gives us 2 more selections.  Let’s count Nia out for now.  Dana is not a possibility.  That still leaves Mickie, Asuka, and Emma.  I say Asuka will be the sole survivor, so she’s in.  Fuck, both Mickie and Emma deserve it.  I am going with Emma, and maybe have Mickie as the special guest ref for Alexa vs Natty.  That would make the most sense.

  1.   Who do you feel benefits more from this new feud: Elias or Jason Jordan?

Russ:   I’m going with Jordan benefiting the most from this feud.  Elias already has a strong following.  Just listen to the pop he gets when he asks people to walk with him.  Jordan has been impressive the past few weeks and I think he just needs to get a good feud under his belt to get the recognition he deserves.  Against Elias he will get just that.  I’m officially jumping on the Jason Jordan Bandwagon.  Now I hope the wheels don’t fall off before I can enjoy the ride.  Can we also agree that the Commentating team will also benefit from this feud?  I don’t usually advocate listening to commentary, but the past two matches of Jason and Elias the commentary has been gold.  

Keri:  Elias is just awesome. I just wish the damn crowd (and Lance) would let him sing. Seriously goddamn it Lance.  He benefits the most from the feud because quite frankly he is the focal point of it. Wait you thought it was Jordan? Please. With that said, I’m just glad we didn’t get salad throwing this time. That was kinda dumb yet kentertaining at the same time.

Kent:  I gotta say Elias by default. This isn’t me being typical Kent here, showing favoritism, despite my first 2 questions highlighting my favs.  Did you see the mark on Jason Jordan’s arm?  Can you honestly say that he is benefitting?  That’s why it is Elias, by default.  I think this has some potential as both guys are sneaky good in the ring.

  1.   Should WWE have given us the 5 on 5 Cruiserweight match for free on RAW?

Russ:   I don’t see why not. I like to think of it as a wetting of the appetite.  The match served its purpose.  I’m more curious about why the rest of the Zo Train decided to team up with Enzo.  I hope they explore that a little bit over the course of the next month.  Still the face team would be so much better if Neville was leading them wouldn’t it?  Come back Neville we miss you.  

Keri:  Sure, why not? I mean we are talking about the same creative team that put the belt back on Enzo and let Neville walk out the door. Logic, as you all know gets thrown out the window. Face it the only smart thing they did all year was set up Balor vs Styles Sunday night. Well them and Bray’s meningitis.

Kent:  Yeah, actually, I was fine with it.  I know, not what you were expecting.  Listen, these should be the 2 teams at Survivor Series, but it will be an elimination style match.  You can easily picture it coming down to Enzo vs the other 5 guys.  I am fine with everything.  Drew Gulak is a star if given stuff to work with.

  1.   Give me your thoughts on the “Under Siege” ending segment of RAW.  Also, give me any side thoughts, like should Shinsuke have been there, or should Randy have been there, or Sami and KO for that matter.

Russ:   I’m not sure how I feel about this “Under Siege” segment.  It felt very forced and half hearted.  They never really spend time building up guys love of for their brand (with the exception of AJ Styles.)  So now I’m supposed to believe that these guys would go around and beat up some of their close friends just to prove they are the better brand?  I’m not sure I buy that.  Yes there were some interesting dynamics playing out, but it never felt exciting.  It felt more like what the fuck is going on rather than an exciting take over of the “flagship” show.  Still like a horrible relationship, I’m willing to give WWE another week or two before I make a final judgment.  (Russ: After watching Smackdown I think I can now say that I’m in on this angle.)

Keri:  I thought it was a perfect way to kick off the build for Survivor Series. Creative is actually storytelling so we should not question it. What we should question is how this is going to be answered on Smackdown? With that said, my favorite moments from the RAW Under Siege segment are as follows: 1. Carmella beats down Bayley. I think that is called Best Friend on Best Friend violence; 2. Curt Hawkins made RAW and did about as well as can be expected; and 3. Styles, Nakamura, and Roode out of nowhere. Seriously, was I the only one that thought they just randomly appeared on the screen?   

Kent:  While I want to break things down, I will offer my 3 favorite aspects of this so that the others have some meat as well.  Basically, I am being the anti-Russ.  1. Chad Gable assaulting Jason Jordan was perfect, and I want to see that match down the line.  2.  AJ Styles and Shinsuke not quite looking like they fit in with this “thug life”.  Shinsuke got a fucking chant, but props to Team Canada in Bobby Roode and Tye working together.  3.  As if it wasn’t obvious, everything about Rusev and Baron was a fucking treat.  Rusev on the table during the one beatdown yelling instructions.  Baron and Rusev being the ones to manhandle as softly as possible, Kurt Angle.  Those are my fucking boys, so I was like a proud papa in that moment.  I don’t understand Randy’s absence.  KO and Sami are a tad more difficult to book here, since they are still not cool with Shane.  I dare, yes DARE, WWE to have the balls to give us a special attraction KO & Sami vs Sheasaro match.  That would have match of the year candidacy.  I’d have AJ, Shinsuke, Randy, Rusev, and either Aiden, Tye, Dolph, or Bobby as the final guy.  It’s gonna be Shane, but I’d have Aiden.

  1.  Was Finn the right opponent to put over Kane?  

Russ:  Holy fuck no!  What the hell were they thinking?  You have Finn go over AJ cleanly (Demon or not makes no damn difference.)  The next night you have Kane go over Finn cleanly.  Kane?  Fucking Kane?  Seriously?  I get it you are trying to make him look strong for when he goes up against Braun who they are turning face for some reason, but Kane hasn’t been dominate in years!  Then to turn around and have him beat Finn, who just came off a major victory, really destroys the credibility of both AJ and Finn.  What the fuck WWE?  

Keri:  Let me see if I get this straight. Finn wins a match of year candidate against Styles. Then subsequently jobs the next night on RAW. Bravo creative. Bravo. So no Finn was not the right person to put over Kane. With that said, I do have one question. Is this going to be a new feud? Because I could go for some demon on demon violence.

Kent:  Wait a second, before anybody steals my thunder, when did Kane get the special powers to see people’s eyes through a metal door of doom on a garbage truck? (Russ: I think the better question is when did he ever need to use that power before?)  Just curious.  What a terrible decision this was.  Isn’t Finn supposed to be vying to take on Brock in January?  Didn’t Finn just beat AJ Styles cleanly?  Does this mean that Kane can beat AJ Styles cleanly?  Can Kane beat Sister Abigail cleanly?  I have so many confusing questions.  Hopefully Dr. Keri can clear things up for me.  Fuck, have Matt Hardy job to Kane.  It didn’t have to be a true star to make the point.  GAWD!  (Keri: Dr. Keri says to schedule a session with her assistant and we will discuss)

  1.  The Fashion Files.  I think we can all agree are enjoyable, but will it ever pay off for Breezdango and the Ascension?  Discuss this and the Fashion Files themselves.  

Russ:  This week’s Fashion Files was a play on Reservoir Dogs.  I have to admit this, and Kent will probably hate me for it, but I have never seen Reservoir Dogs.  (Kent: Jesus tap dancing Christ Russ.  I am sitting here with 7 copies of the movie including the 15th anniversary, the 5 colored cases, and it was the first blu ray that I purchased along with Sin City, plus my shot glasses.  The fuck Russ?  Stop watching wrestling and go see this film……just not when the boy is around.)  Not that I don’t want to.  It has just never been on when I am watching TV.  With that said I did find this week enjoyable.  I like how they used Ellsworth this week as the dog in Reservoir Dog.  The Ascension pointing out how Breezdango have never actually solved any cases was amusing.  I’m just concerned that this isn’t leading to them moving up in the Tag Division.  We will see if we do finally get a match out of this with the Bludgeon Bros.  But if past precedent is any indication, that won’t be happening.  I just don’t understand why this isn’t translating to success in the ring.  Clearly, the Fashion Files is a big attraction for Smackdown.  They should be capitalizing on this.  Instead, we haven’t seen them in a televised match in well over 2 months (it could be even more, but my memory of matches gets fuzzy after 2 months.)  

Keri:  I have not seen Reservoir Dogs so I’m not sure how this segment related to the movie. And for that I know I should be shamed.  Anyways, I enjoyed the segment and it explained where Ellsworth ran off to so that was a plus. Seriously, Carmella, from one dog mom to another, keep the leash on the dog when you go out in public or it will run away. Anyways, I hope they use both teams rising popularity for a title run sooner rather than later. You know before people get bored with the Fashion Files and don’t care about either team. With that said, I think the Bludgeon Brothers need to be integrated into this storyline for it to make sense and would be a good way to introduce them.

Kent:  Eventually both will get shots with the tag titles.  It’s inevitable, and we may say in that moment that it was all worth it, but honestly, it will be too little too late I fear for both teams.  When Breezedango had the title match with the Uso’s, that was the time.  The fact that they are dragging the Bludgeon Brothers into this worries me a great deal.  Leave them out of this!!!  They deserve to be taken seriously.

  1.  No RAW Invasion on Smackdown?  Was that the right move?  

Russ:  RAW not invading Smackdown this week was actually the correct path for this angle.  I know, usually WWE totally fucks this part of storytelling up.  However, this time I think this was the best course of action.  First,  I bet there were lots of people tuning in just to see RAW’s retaliation.  They played this perfectly, by teasing throughout the night that something might happen.  This forced people to either watch most if not all of the night to see it.  I have to admit, knowing WWE, they like to do things the old fast and furious way.  I expected to have some kind of payoff to the “siege”.  Instead, we got nothing.  Well played WWE.  Now this forces me to wait another week and I’m intrigued.  I want to know how this will play out and the only way to see that is to stay tuned.  I would watch no matter what, because I’m in this abusive relationship until the end, but I bet there are casual fans that want to know how this plays out and forces them to watch next week now.  If they play this angle out properly (which I highly doubt) this angle has the ability to change casual fans to hardcore fans.  Something WWE has struggled to do as of late.  Finally, I like how they are kind of setting up a rift between Daniel and Shane.  They have been doing it for weeks now, but this week really pointed it out.  This is a dynamic that I hope leads to Shane turning into a heel authority, everything Daniel hates, and we can get a good story out of that after Survivor Series.  

Keri:  I think so. Everyone kinda expected it to happen which is why it’s kinda nice that it didn’t. Lack of predictability in my WWE. I never thought I’d see that.

Kent:  It was the right call.  Give it time, and it will happen.  If you jerk it, it will…..wait a minute.  Anyway, no need to blow your entirely load this week.  I’m shocked that WWE didn’t go this route.  I’m actually curious is the dissension between Daniel and Shane will lead to other stories, hopefully with a dash of Ascension thrown in.

  1.  Did WWE screw themselves over on some other great Survivor Series type matches in favor of too many singles matches?

Russ:  They sure did.  I understand the champion vs champion aspect they were going for.   Also, I am pretty sure this is one of the only PPV’s they specifically angle for RAW vs Smackdown.  However, this is Survivor Series!  Sure it hasn’t been the traditional Survivor Series in years, but I’ve always loved the team dynamic that Survivor Series provides.  It would be easy to make teams of 5 to go up against each other.  In fact we could have 3 or 4 Survivor Series matches and then a couple of singles matches.  I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.  If WWE wants to push a RAW vs Smackdown PPV.  what is stopping them from taking one month during the year and instead of having two shitty PPV’s that month we have one and call it RAW vs Smackdown.  Then we could have two times a year the brands interact.  

Keri:  This PPV is more of a Night of Champions and Bragging Rights combo then Survivor Series and probably should have been labeled as such. But with that said, neither have the name recognition that Survivor Series does so there is that, I guess. I don’t know. The card looks halfway decent so I guess I’ll watch.

Kent:  Yes, of course.  We could have had a Titus Worldwide team of Titus, Apollo, Akira, Jason Jordan & R Truth vs Tye Dillenger, Bobby Roode, Dolph, Chad, and Shelton.  Tell me that would be a solid match.  Then do a Elias, Gallows & Anderson, and Ginger Rhynos vs Rusev, Breezedango, and Ascension with Aiden singing.  They could have done an all champion one as well, with Brock, Miz, Dean, Seth, and Alexa vs Jinder, Baron, Usos, and Natty.  That would be a sweet ass match.  

  1.  Sami lost to Randy.  It would seem logical that KO will lose to Shinsuke next week.  New Day appeared at the forefront of the #UnderSiege, so it is plausible that would be Team Smackdown.  If that’s the case, what do they do with KO & Sami, Bobby, Dolph, Tye, Rusev, Aiden, etc?

Russ: I’m sold on Kent’s idea of KO and Sami vs Sheasaro.  All the rest I honestly don’t know what they could do.  If only they could put them in a match that includes teams of 4 or 5 that go against each other in an elimination type style. It would be like trying to Survive to win.  I really think WWE should invent this type of match.  

Keri:  I’m not sure. Maybe have them help Team RAW since it appears Smackdown doesn’t want them. Either that or have some of them bail and go to the Indies. Cody is killing it right now in ROH. I think those guys could too. I know I know some of them came from there but really maybe they would be utilized better there than they currently are in the WWE. Just a thought.

Kent:  I just told you what to do.  Otherwise, give me KO and Sami vs Sheasaro and let that main event and destroy every preceding match.  

Bonus Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  RAW wasn’t bad.  The first half hour was a fantastic match.  I’m digging the Elias / Jordan feud.  I hope Foxy as captain of the women’s team makes for some great segments in the future. I’m on board the Zo Train!  Finally, I’m still on the fence about the “Under Siege” segment, but I’ll go along for the ride for now.  The only truly baffling thing about RAW was having Finn lose to Kane.  Rating: 6

Keri:  I thought this was a really good RAW. You know why this was a good RAW because I was halfway through it before I found a good stopping point to go to bed. I mean halfway through I saw a decent opening segment, my girl Asuka, Mickie and Bliss, and Elias. What more does a girl need? Rating: 6

Kent:  Can I just say that I liked it and rate it?  Yes!  Rating: 6 so we can have a 666 rating.  Spooky!

  1.  Rate Smackdown

Russ:  Smackdown wasn’t too bad this week.  I was expecting RAW to invade somehow, as it is WWE’s trademark to burn through story as quickly as possible, but no invasion actually worked.  It kept me thinking something has to happen.  When nothing did it made me want to see where this is going.  The ending of the show was well done too with the powers that be for Smackdown seemingly at odds.  As for the rest of the show.  It was pretty standard fare.  I enjoyed the tag match and Fashion Files continues to be fun.  Rating: 5.3  

Keri:  This is the week where I determine how good a show is by how quickly I fall asleep. Well if you guess after the tag match you would be correct. So with that said, I’m upset I missed Fashion Dogs and Becky winning but outside of that I really didn’t miss that much. Rating: 4

Kent:  Rating 4.8 because I really wasn’t enthralled unfortunately.

Final Thoughts

Russ:  I’ve noticed that my enjoyment of wrestling goes up when I can fast forward.  I don’t know if it’s because I have to spend less time watching wrestling or the fact that I can choose to skip stupid segments.  Either way I need to do this more often.  

Keri:  So, my husband got me a Kenny Omega bear (directly from Japan) and that is the most exciting wrestling related thing I’ve seen over the past week. Well that and watching highlights from ROH Global Wars Chicago and also AJ vs. Finn at TLC.

Kent:  I have links to photo shoots because these are great.  There are 2 this week.  One is a nice homage to Kane and the other is WWE’s take on classic horror movie posters.  Some are better than others.

Kane Tribute

Iconic Horror Movie Posters

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The Wrestling 9 Deuce – October 16 & 17, 2017 – Kane Returns!

We had the TLC go home show on RAW, which gave us the return of Kane.  Bray is still MIA, as is Bo, Nia, and Neville.  We saw a lot of cruiserweight and women’s action this week as well.  Over on Smackdown, we saw KO and Sami grow together and rip on Daniel Bryan, Jinder challenge Brock Lesnar to a match at Survivor Series, a lot of backstage or pre-taped tag team segments, 4 to be exact, and Dolph touching Bobby’s butt.  We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained which you can also subscribe to on iTunes, and give our picks for TLC.


The 9

  1. Wow, RAW ran 2 different Cruiserweight storylines in the same night.  I know, I know.  I checked and Hell did not freeze over.  Which story has your interest: Cedric & Rich  vs THE Brian Kendrick & Gentleman Jack or Enzo and his posse vs Kalisto and Mustafa Ali?

Russ:  I am as shocked as the question! How did RAW find enough time to give us two Cruiserweight stories! I mean they only have three hours.  They have to show the shield for at least two of those that doesn’t leave much time.  Anyway,  I’m more interested Cedric & Rich vs THE Brian Kendrick & Gentleman Jack.  I really like this new Jack.  His viciousness is fantastic and I just like to watch him wrestle.  Plus anytime THE Brian Kendrick gets a story I want to see where they are going with it.  Not to mention Cedric & Rich are a lot of fun to watch in the ring too.

Keri: Wow, I take a week off and they give me two Cruiserweight storylines. Way to try to win me back WWE. I’m still kind of mad at you. With that said, I’m loving Heel Jack Gallagher so I have to say I’m leaning towards that storyline has my fave. I mean come on the guy wrestles in a vest and looks good doing it. Also, I think The Brian Kendrick should see more screentime. He is largely underutilized. I’m already bored with Enzo and Kalisto so I can’t muster any more energy to say anything else regarding that storyline.

Kent:  The moment that they put the belt back on Enzo, especially with Neville gone, and when they explain why those 4 guys are helping Enzo after wanting to hut him 2 weeks ago, then I may be able to understand things better.  Until then, I’m going with a simple feud that makes sense and has legit in ring talent.

  1.   What’s the bigger surprise: Kane’s return, Curtis trying to take on Roman, or the fact that WWE is going to put the Shield over all 5 members of Miz’s team?

Russ:   I was pleasantly surprised to see that Kane pop up from under the ring.  That is one of my all time favorite ways for Kane to appear.  Is it really a surprise, at this point,  that WWE is going to embarrass 4 ultra talented individuals and Kane just so they can make a few bucks?  Still I’ll mourn The Miz, Braun, and Sheasaro’s careers.   

Keri:  Again, I take a week off and Kane comes back. Now I’m even more confused. I thought he was running for office or something. Well I guess what better way to get people to vote for you then scaring them into voting for you. Either that or the wow our mayor is a total badass vote. I’m sure his campaign staff would prefer either as long as people vote for him. As for the other options, all I have to say is meh. However, I did mark out when I saw the old Shield entrance this week.  I’m looking forward to them burying everyone this weekend. Oh come on, you know it’s going to happen. Don’t fight it. It will hurt less if you don’t.

Kent:  Kane’s return, obviously.  WWE clearly isn’t serious about making Braun a star or Miz a star or Sheasaro a star.  Bonus question time.  Name the last PPV match that Braun actually won. Yeah.  Kane coming up from under the ring will always be the correct choice.

  1.  So TLC has 3 women’s matches, 2 Cruiserweight matches, Finn vs Bray (possibly), and the TLC main event.  How is it that Elias, Gallows & Anderson, Jason Jordan, Matt Hardy, and Titus Worldwide are left off of this beyond mediocre card?

Russ:   On paper this PPV looks like my career as a podcaster.  Mediocre at best.   I’m hoping they make the Emma vs Asuka match an actual match.  If they do then that match will be good.  Also, The TLC match will deliver.  At least one of the cruiserweight matches should be good.  After that though, things get murky. I love Mickie and Alexa, but I’m not sure how good this match will be.  Bray (Sister Abigail) vs Finn may not even happen that will be a game day decision.  I don’t understand why Elias doesn’t have a scheduled match yet.  He has been doing a great job on RAW which should have a payoff that is pre-scheduled for a PPV.  I’m sure some of these guys will have a match on the kickoff show, but damned if I’ll know before Saturday.  

Keri:  I’m confused. There is a PPV this weekend? You could have fooled me given the lack of match announcements on Monday’s RAW. Oh well. The card looks pretty bleak right now which isn’t a bad thing since I probably will not have time to watch it anyways. With that said, since the card isn’t finalized, Elias and company probably have a match this Sunday. Which leads me to one question. When did Jason Jordan join Titus Worldwide? Again week off and now I have questions.  I’m so confused and may need an adult.

Kent:  In a night where they could really use some small filler matches, the WWE says fuck conventional wisdom or common sense.  I’m left wondering about how Nia Jax and Bayley got left out.  Let’s acknowledge some facts.  Alicia Fox only gets pushed for a short term in order for her to job to a face that needs a push (Asuka).  Replace Alicia’s name with Emma and the same thing.  SO 2 matches are taking place to get Asuka over, which isn’t stupid, but it’s predictable as fuck.  Mickie is a legit all timer for women, so she is helping Alexa stay relevant for awhile longer, probably the rest of the year if they want, and I hope that they do.  I’d love for Mickie to win it and then Alexa win it back in the blow off match.  Alexa vs Asuka better be at Mania…..so expect it within a month. I’m happy for the Cruiserweights.  The issue is that they shoved all of the main event level guys into 2 matches, and that’s if you consider Finn and Bray main event caliber, which I do, well at least for Bray.  Joe is still out I guess, and Brock is doing Brock things and Cena is doing Cena things.  Wow, this roster really appears thin at the moment, and that’s because everything is on pause to get the Shield over…again.  The tag division is a mess at the moment, and so is the Red Belt situation.  Hell, the IC belt is a mess for all intents and purposes.  When was the last time the Miz had a meaningful feud for the belt?  Last year with Dolph?  Yeah, thought so.  The WWE booked themselves in so many corners, and now they reap what they sow.  I can’t wait for Sunday…..so I can watch the Walking Dead.

  1.   Let’s vent about WWE “only” having the one TLC match for Sunday while not having other Tables, Ladders, or Chairs matches.

Russ:   Yeah as if this PPV wasn’t mediocre enough it doesn’t help that they didn’t book the traditional Tables/ Ladder / Chairs matches that lead up to the TLC match.  I’m not sure who really fucked up this PPV, but man WWE you can’t have TLC without the T, L, and C matches.  How hard would it have been to just assign some of these boring matches the stipulations.  It would have made this PPV more interesting.  I know they tend to suck, but I could have been down for Sasha vs Alicia Chair match.

Keri:  Honestly, I’m ok with the current set up. Yes there could be more gimmick matches. But honestly how many combinations of tables, ladders and chairs can one possibly come up with for a PPV before the audience gets bored. I’m asking on behalf of Creative.

Kent:  Beyond anything else wrong with this PPV, this is the #1 thing that is pissing me off.  All this would have taken was a modicum of common sense to do this.  First we must ask, what matches could use the stipulations best.  The main event is TLC.  Finn vs Bray is it’s own clusterfuck, no need for anything beyond a House of Whooooores.  Asuka vs Emma is an attraction unto itself.  There, I just eliminated 3 out of the 7 planned matches.  So when Alicia attacks Sasha backstage, she uses a chair.  Boom, now we have a chairs match.  When the guys were beating up Kalisto and Mustafa Ali, do a spot where they put them through a table to enhance the beatdown and you have a tables match.  Mickie could said that Alexa wouldn’t be brave enough to put her belt on the line in a ladder match and Alexa is like, I will break your old ass.  So everything I just said could have happened on RAW or last week in Mickie and Alexa’s case.  All of a sudden, that card has some intrigue.  These fucking clowns writing for WWE are dense as fuck.  Hire me WWE.  I will make you great once more.  I refuse to say again because I’m not on Twitter half of my awake hours, nor do I have a fake ass tan.  Put Hogan back in the Hall Of Fame!

  1.  Who is worse on the mic: Roman Reigns, Finn Balor, or Shinsuke Nakamura?

Russ:  Finn is very boring on the mic.  It’s not that he is bad, necessarily, he just doesn’t deliver a very exciting promo.  However, this week the WWE did something that I’m not sure whether I think is completely asinine, or used correctly, brilliant.  I’m talking about the CG paint on Finn’s face so he could be the demon without having to use the makeup.  I was left dumbfounded by what I had just seen.  I knew that I couldn’t ever unsee it either.  If you read last week I stated that I was ok with a stupid story as long as it was fun.  Well this story has taken a turn to stupid and dumb.  That’s not a good combination.  

Keri:  I’m not going to say Shinsuke. The guy is still trying to learn English so it’s not fair to judge him right now. I mean he has only been with the company for over a year and most of that time was in NXT where the focus is more on wrestling than mic skills. With that said, the same kinda goes Finn but he’s been on the main roster long enough where that is starting to be not an excuse. I enjoy watching him (and those abs) in the ring.  But when he picks up a mic. well, I cringe. So, I have to go with Finn. He just isn’t improving and that’s bad if he wants to move up. As for Roman, leave the chosen one alone, he has gotten better and temporarily has Rollins and Ambrose to help him.

Kent:  I refuse to say Shinsuke because even when he talks, I listen and I enjoy listening to him.  He knows his limitations but tries like hell.  I get why he is the right answer, but I like him.  So now we are left with a guy who rarely gets a chance to shine on the mic, and really only looked halfway decent when going opposite Cena and Miz, 2 of the few guys that make anybody stand out in some capacity.  I think Roman could be above average if given the opportunity.  I think he’s actually kind of a cool dude that I would enjoy.   Then there is Finn.  Name one time that Finn has been good on the mic.  Oh, you can’t?  The Miz couldn’t get anything, Bray could, Paul Heyman couldn’t.  Finn is sadly the answer, and I don’t know if it’s him or the bad writing.  I think it is both.  I kinda feel bad for him, but he is held in such high regard, I struggle with empathy.

  1.  How great of an idea is it to have Jinder challenge Brock Lesnar?

Russ:  This idea is actually great from a WWE fans perspective.  Not in terms of match quality.  No, that is going to be total shit.  I mean that at least for one month Jinder and Brock won’t destroy a good wrestlers career.  If they are facing each other then we don’t have to worry about them wasting Shinsuke’s or AJ’s or Samoa Joe’s or Braun’s time in a match we know they have no right to win.  That’s fantastic!  Sure it means they will keep the belts for another month, but the belts have become so meaningless that who the hell cares at this point.  I will say that this match is going to be bad for business.  If Jinder wins then it completely ruins the build up they have been working toward since Mania for Brock vs Roman.  Also, if Brock wins then Jinder will be proven to be the unworthy garbage champion that we all know he already is.  So, yea the match is going to suck, but at least they won’t ruin good wrestlers careers.  

Keri:  This match is going to be bad and Creative should feel bad. You know what I’m not watching at Survivors Series. Yep, you got it. This match.  It’s going to be short and underwhelming and I have better things to do with my time. Like sleep.  

Kent:  Well, I mean, good for Jinder to somehow be in position to get this match.  I honestly never thought that Jinder would be able to have this match.  Yeah, it’s going to be a burial.  WWE has to show how much better RAW is to Smackdown, but that has always been the case.  Just think of all the bumps that the SIngh Bros will be taking.

  1.  We’ve seen Baron have great matches with Kalisto and on Tuesday, he wrestled Sin Cara briefly.  Do you think that this is a solid matchup for Baron and even Sin Cara?

Russ:  I’ll see where this matchup takes us.  Baron vs Kalisto was fantastic this time last year.  I think they are hoping lightning will strike twice here.  I can see it happening.  Baron is good against smaller opponents and Sin Cara can do his gymnastics routine and get thrown around like a rag doll well.  So this seems like it could be a winning combination for a short feud.  

Keri:  This matchup intrigues me. It should work really well since Sin Cara is a luchador and Baron does really well for some reason with luchadors. Alright, I’ll just say it. This should be really good and I will enjoy watching it.

Kent:  Unlike certain people, I am beyond sold for this.  Both men like to hit hard and are very physical.  On top of that, Sin Cara can bring some speed and high flying that Baron really works well with.  I think this could be a very solid feud, if they continue it.  It has more potential than most would perceive.  Or you could be a pussy and take the wait and see approach because god forbid you make a bad prediction in this blog.

  1.  Bobby Roode has now lost.  The big story is about pulling the tights.  Is this working for you as almost a heel vs heel dynamic, or is Bobby still too much of a face for this feud to click properly?

Russ:  The glorious gimmick is not meant to be a face one.  It is supposed to be about an obnoxious person who thinks they are above it all and they consistently prove that point in the ring.  So this isn’t really working for me.  I’m a huge Roode fan but I want the “Glorious” one to be that same uisufferable ass hole that deep down we all love.  Not this kind of lame face that we are getting.  If they want to make this work then Bobby needs to have an above average match.  He has yet to have one of those in WWE.  Give him and Dolph some time and I think we may see that, but I doubt WWE will give them what they need.  

Keri:  I guess it’s working. Given the loss though, is there really any reason to continue this feud. Ziggler’s point has kinda been made, hasn’t it?

Kent:  The moment somebody can explain to me how pulling the tights gives you additional leverage to get the pin, I will be more intrigued.  I’m waiting.

  1.  We had the KO & Sami stuff with Daniel, Randy, & Shinsuke, the Pulp Fashion, the women’s match, The Uso’s with American Beta, Rusev & Aiden with New Day, and even another Bludgeon Brothers promo.  Pick a topic, discuss it.  Just don’t pick a topic that somebody else has chosen.

Russ:  I am digging American Beta.  I think Gable is proving just how stupid the WWE creative can be.  We all thought that they would use Gable as the illegitimate son of Kurt because it made a lot of sense.  Not to mention that he is charismatic and could cut a decent promo.  Instead WWE creative went with Jason Jordan because it was a “funny” knock on Kurt.  Hilarious!  Except now that the joke has worn off Jason Jordan is fucked.  He isn’t getting over with the crowds and the “Angle” is dead.  So now Gable is getting his chance again and he is just fun to watch.  His promo with The Uso’s was fantastic.  He was all over the place and his excitement is infectious.  I am excited to see how this feud unfolds.  

Keri:  To the surprise of no one, maybe other than Kent given his comments below, I’m going to talk Fashion Files, I mean Pulp Fashion. That segment, while not as funny as the Elias and the Good Brothers segment this week, was well worth the wait. I like the Ascension in their current role. They show that they are not just scary looking but have a comedic side to them. As for Breezedango, both guys just nail it week after week. And with that I close by saying Fashion Files 4 assemble.

Kent:  As much as I want to choose the dynamic between Rusev and Aiden, I want to tackle the women.  Sorry Keri.  I think WWE needs to open their damn eyes sooner than later and put the focus back on Becky Lynch, first and foremost, as the face of that division.  She is punny, yes, but is decent on the mic, and very good in ring.  Carmella is still lurking.  I think it would make sense for Becky to take the belt off of Natty and then have the cash in.  That would really help.

Bonus Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  For a go home show this was one of the better ones this year.  Remember this year has been total crap for go home shows so to say this was one of the better ones is not a compliment really.  I enjoyed several things about this show.  The Tag Championship match was lots of fun.  Elias, Gallows, and Anderson were great with their promo.  Finally, when Kane came up through the ring I was very happy for a few moments anyway.  Rating: 5.8

Keri:  I thought this was a good RAW. Not exactly the best build for this weekend’s PPV but still I enjoyed what I did watch live and what I saw in recap videos. RAW is starting to improve week over week in terms of quality. Also, I just have to say again, yea Shield! It was nice to see my boys back together again with the same outfit and the same entrance. Yes, my name is Keri and I am a Shield mark. Deal with it. Rating: 6

Kent:  This was the go home show.  This was okay.  It got over all of the feuds, so I think that is good.  I mean Finn was screwed without Bray this week, so that’s nobody’s fault, so I am not holding that against them. I really loved Elias and G & A.  That song was amazing.  I thought the reveal of Kane was actually shocking.  There are a lot of aspects that I would rewatch.  The women’s matches worked, the Fisters vs Sheasaro was good if not entirely predictable.  Roman vs Braun was fun, more of a sideshow but fun.  I will say 5.3.

  1.  Rate Smackdown

Russ:  Smackdown was ok.  I really enjoyed Sami coming out and just brutally destroying Daniel firmly pushing him into the heel zone.  Sami is a great heel so far and I hope they continue this push.  Fashion Files was ok.  It wasn’t their best work, but it had its moments.  The women’s division is awful right now and I’m definitely interested in seeing Gable and Shelton take on The Uso’s.  Rating: 5.3

Keri:  Remember when Smackdown was must see TV. Yeah those were good times which is why I bring it up every week. The only redeeming features for this week’s show were KO and Sami and Pulp Fashion. Rating: 2

Kent:  I know that Smackdown happened.  I know that I didn’t hate it.  I actually paid attention to all things not named Charlotte.  I liked it more than I enjoyed this hackneyed Shield bullshit, that’s for fucking sure.  5.8


Final Thoughts


Russ:  Rating Smackdown and RAW has become difficult.  This year has just been so bland that now just a mediocre show has become, what feels like better than average.  For example:  as I was rating Smackdown this week I gave it a 5.3, which is decent.  However, in years past I don’t think this episode would have earned a 4.  It had its moments, but for the most part I was pretty bored.  Still for this year it seemed more than adequate.  Come on WWE Step up your game!  

Keri:  Did I mention how happy I am that the Shield is back together? Ok good, because I’m so happy the Shield are back together.

Kent:  Well I was going to start writing wrestling porn scenes.  I don’t know if that’s necessarily appropriate for what we do.  Just know that if I do, my first scene would involve a UN PC convention in which Lana would be the Russian ambassador and Rusev would be the Bulgarian representative.  At the hotel where they would be staying, mid shower, Rusev’s shower would stop working.  Wet and soapy, he wraps himself in a towel and knocks on his neighbor’s door.  Just at that moment, Lana has stripped and just turned on her shower.  She answers the door wrapped in nothing but her towel.  When she hears of this sexy man’s plight, she offers to share her shower, and then we learn that PC may not stand for Politically Correct, but rather Pussy CRUSH!  Admit it, you are ashamed that you read this whole thing.  Also, here’s some zombie shit that WWE conveniently did days before The Walking Dead returns.


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The Wrestling 9 Deuce – October 9 & 10, 2017 – Sami Bludgeons Us With The Truth Edition

This week we see the reformation of the Shield, Neville walks out and Enzo loses his belt, the Mizzies, the Women of RAW owning it, AJ vs Baron, the first peek at the Bludgeon Brothers, and Sami Zayn’s explanation on why he helped KO at Hell In A Cell.  We talked about this, plus much more on this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained and give our picks for Hell In A Cell.


The 9

  1.  Is WWE making a mistake by not having Elias take a loss to either Apollo or Titus?

Russ:  I have to say yes.  I like Elias, but if you want to build a proper feud no matter how short it will last there needs to be wins on both sides.  Apollo and Titus losing all the time doesn’t make this interesting.  The end result needs to be a total win for Elias, but up to that point giving Apollo and Titus a win here or there at least keeps the fans interested.  Not to mention it keeps Apollo relevant, instead of the joke that he has basically become.  

Kent:  Yeah.  As you know, I don’t want Elias to eat a lot of pins, but to get more traction out of a feud, there needs to be some give and take.  Not 50/50 booking mind you.  But in the end, you want to see that the person fought hard to rise up to the next position in line.  It’s not like UFC where you want to look as dominant as possible, despite what VKM may think.  You want the struggle so that when they lose, you don’t sit there scratching your head wondering how this guy  beat another guy.  Example: Bray defeating Finn cleanly the week before Summerslam.  Yup, still dwelling.

  1.  The Shield are supposed to be faces, but they just assaulted Braun in a 3 on 1 mugging, and the cameras assaulted my eyes with their bullshit directing.  What the hell is happening here?

Russ:  I am really angry with myself. I missed The Shield and Braun stuff.  I went to take the trash out and when I came back everything was over.  I tried to go back to watch it, but my cable box sucks nutts.  So I can’t address the whole faces acting as heels thing other than to say that this is typical WWE thinking:  We cheer them so everything they do is inherently good.  What really pissed me off was how many times Michael Fucking Cole mentioned The Shield throughout the entire broadcast!  If I were playing a drinking game and had to take a sip of beer every time The Shield was mentioned, I probably would have passed out by the end of the second hour.  I’m talking “Russ Sips” too, so small ones that barely count as sips.  Also, I’m not a complete lightweight when it comes to drinking before you think that. That is just how many times he mentioned The Shield.   

Kent:  I’m just jealous that Russ has a cable box that fellates testicles.  I want one of those.  I kinda want to play this Shield drinking game now.  I may be seeing Ron this week, so we may take you up on that, with or without Russ Sips.  Gosh, I’m just enjoying responding to Russ.  Why even bother having an original thought?  I hate this whole storyline, mainly it’s execution, so fuck it, if you really want to hear me lay it all out, listen to this week’s episode of Are You Not Kentertained. Buttplug Holly would be impressed with that plug.

  1.  Which women’s segment did you enjoy more: Mickie and Alexa’s promo or the 5 Way Dance?

Russ:  I enjoyed both of them, but I enjoyed the fatal 5 way more than the promo.  I like the old timey video Alexa presented.  It gave me a hardy chuckle.  What I don’t like is that they keep beating this dead horse of Mickie being old.  OK, we get it she isn’t a spring chicken.  There have to be other things we can target about her.  I liked the 5-way dance.  I thought the match was pretty good, if not a little short.  Also, Emma won!  I mean she is going to end up losing at TLC, but hey she at least has a match at the PPV… so yay?  In all honesty, I know Emma had a few good matches against Asuka in NXT and I hope they allow this to be a contest and not a squash match.  

Kent:  Man, I don’t know.I loved the Mickie and Alexa back and forth, and they did it so well.  Is it weird to say that I may be cheering for Mickie at TLC?  Yeah, it is.  She is killing it right now and deserves a reward for her hard work in my opinion, which is not a shot at my goddess Bliss.  WIth that being said, the other thing had a screaming Foxy and my girl Emma winning.  I gotta enjoy her winning while I can before she starts taking it hard from Asuka.  By the way, I have gone on record well over a month ago stating that Emma was going to be the first one to take on Asuka.  On your knees dogs, and hail to the king!

  1.  Did WWE just blow it by having Enzo drop the belt already?

Russ:  I think they screwed themselves with the stipulation about how none of the competitors could touch Enzo or they forfeited their right to challenge for the belt.  This could have easily been avoided if they just made it a one night stipulation, which I thought was the case originally, but WWE doesn’t have the foresight to see how dumb this stipulation was.  So with their creative backs in a corner they did the only thing they could do.  Have Enzo lose.  He’ll win it back at TLC.  This will wipe away the stipulation, it will also allow Neville back into the picture (though apparently he may be gone now?).  Still another quick title change isn’t going to help the cruiserweight division.  On a positive note… I can’t believe how good Enzo has been since moving to 205!  They are using his character almost perfectly and no matter what he does, he will still get pops from the crowd.  

Kent:  I saw a video earlier this year where one of my favorite actresses took on 5 guys via a glory hole.  This somehow sucked harder.  Enzo has been the golden goose that you have given the main event slot 3 weeks in a row, and I admit, I wasn’t getting sick of him.  I was loving his stuff, especially with Neville.  This should have played out so much better.  Now we got that fat ass, Kalisto as the champ.  Fuck this.  I’m gonna watch my favorite actress some more.

  1.  Pick a topic that we haven’t talked about and talk about it.

Russ:  Let’s talk about Sister Abigail!  I read on the interwebs how so many people hate this gimmick and how stupid it is.  All I can say is “No shit!”  It is a dumb gimmick, but it’s wrestling dumb.  The kind of dumb I can get behind!  I thought the segment was fun and has me intrigued.  I want to see Sister Abigail come out to the ring damn it!  I don’t know how much of a fan of wrestling you are if you don’t want to see what Bray will look like as Sister Abigail.  I have to give Finn props for the serious acting chops he has.  I mean, it must have taken all of his strength not to laugh as hard as he could when Bray was talking as Sister Abigail.  I laughed a lot, but a good laugh is needed every once in awhile.  

Kent:  Russ, you foolish twit!  You WASTED your response to talk of silly things.  Let’s get serious and talk about the Bludgeon Brothers!  Oh my, I may have been a white Lexington Steele for a few moments.  Harper and Rowan are back together, but with these stupid ass looking hammers.  I am so fucking excited.  I don’t have the proper words to convey to you how excited I am about this.

  1.  A lot of time, when a wrestler turns heel, their explanation is bland and non creative, and sometimes nonsensical.  Did Sami’s explanation work for you?

Russ:   I thought Sami’s explanation was perfect!  Usually, WWE gives us dumb / Lame / non-logical explanations for why people turn heel or face.  Since its WWE we usually groan or just ignore it.  However,  this was very logical and genuine.  They used the WWE Universe’s perception of what’s going on with Sami and played it perfectly.  He was wooed over to Smackdown by Shane.   Then basically Sami was completely misused.  Add in a few lines about never talking to Shane again and we have a guy who is just sick and tired of doing the “right” thing and getting nowhere.  I have to agree with Kent, I don’t think I’d classify Sami as a Heel.  Based on his thought process of what’s going on around him I actually sympathize with Sami.  I hope they don’t turn this into cheap heel crap because this is the best thing WWE has going right now.   

Kent:  This may have been one of the top 10 turning heel explanations that I have seen.  It made a lot of sense, it didn’t feel convoluted.  It felt smart and genuine.  I’m not even sure if Sami is truly a heel, but I guess he is in WWE’s “universe”.  You know that place where some guy occasionally shows up with some red belt and defends it and gets paid way more than he’s worth?

  1.  Did tonight confirm to you that The Usos and New Day will take on the rest of the tag division at Smackdown?

Russ:  No, I don’t think this did anything except sever the feud for awhile.  The Hell in a Cell match was the perfect place to end this feud, at least for now anyway.  It was brutal, innovative and fun.  I don’t think they can top this.  I’d love it if they tried, but honestly I’d rather they leave it alone here.  So now it is time for the new day to feud with someone new.  Maybe a couple of Hammer Bros. that are debuting finally!  While The Uso’s can go against American Beta.  Things are looking good for the Smackdown Tag Division again.    

Kent:  Confirmed?  Nah.  Do I think that is the direction of things?  Yeah.  Especially when the Usos and New Day run through a couple of teams and all looks lost and then the Bludgeon Brothers come out to handle shit.  Also, did this cement the fact that Authors of Pain are RAW bound because RAW has no tag team division to speak of?  Here’s where WWE fucked up.  Braun shouldn’t have gotten involved beyond getting triple powerbombed and stayed off of TV because his momentum is gone, but kept the Miz and Sheasaro.  After The Shield won, yes, The Shield Russ, the Shield reunited, I would have Braun come out with the Authors of Pain at the end of TLC and massacre The Shield.  Make an impact just like The Shield did back in 2013.  See how that would make for a fucking riveting debut and be a great feud to close out 2017 so that Sheasaro can go back to being the best tag team in WWE.

  1.  Does Dolph Ziggler have the best hair out of all the males on the WWE main roster?

Russ:  Now This is a handsome question.  Better than asking what the actual fuck happened between Ziggler and Bobby on Smackdown.  Seriously, that was an awful segment.  Bobby is not a natural face.  As for the hair.  Ziggler has top 5 hair for sure, but I think Breeze and Dango both have better hair.  Also, I like my hair wet and while Dolph has come out with wet hair that is admirable it is no Roman Reigns wet mop of hair.

Kent:  This one is tough as hell.  I do love “The Lone Hairline” of Baron.  Seriously, this has to come down to Dolph and Tyler Breeze, right?  I am terribly conflicted, but Dolph’s looks longer, so I am going with…….Dolph.  Sheamus finished third for me and I felt that Tony Neese and Gentleman Jack get 4th and 5th place.

  1.  Was that the best  Baron Corbin singles match yet?

Russ:  This was close, but I still think what he did with Kalisto in the chairs match is the best.  Granted that had a gimmick attached to it, but I dare you to find a chairs match that is actually good.  Still I love the chemistry between AJ and Corbin and I would really love to see more of them down the line.  For now though we need to get AJ back into the Main Event and going for the WWE title.  Jinder has sullied it and I think only an epic run by AJ can fix things.  No Jinder this week and no one cared.  

Kent:  He had some really good matches this past winter when AJ was scouting him.  I think the Kalisto chairs match is still #1, but this is probably his second best.  I liked it a lot from a quality perspective, but then again, anybody who isn’t Jinder can have a great match with AJ.  Where was Jinder this week?  Oh, nobody missed him?  That’s a shame.


Bonus Deuce Deuce

  1. Raw:  Rate it

Russ:  I enjoyed RAW tonight.  A rare thing these days.  There was a lot of things I didn’t pay full attention to. Sister Abigail was just dumb fun,  The Main Event was good, and I really liked the Mizzies.  I can say that I was happy to see the Shield come out and do shield things, even if this was a clusterfuck of a way to get them back together.  By the end of the first hour I was sick of hearing about The Shield thanks to Michael Cole, so I can only imagine the joy Kent must have felt by the end of the third hour where, by that point, Cole must have mentioned The Shield about a million times.  Rating:  5.4  

Kent:  I did not enjoy it as much as Russ did apparently.  Sick of the Shield already.  The Mizzies was fun, as was Sister Abigail, Emma won, the Alexa and Mickie stuff, and Braun vs Matt.  This breaking Neville story is clearing up the air a bit about why the main event happened that way.  Still, bad title change in my opinion.  I wasn’t terribly Kentertained.  5.1 seems fair. And much closer to Russ than I thought.  Damn.

  1.  Smackdown: Rate It

Russ:  I would have enjoyed it better if my cable wasn’t complete and utter garbage.  Spectrum more like Sucktrum am i right?  Still I loved the opening segment, Sami’s explanation for his turn is one of the most coherent stories wrestling has ever produced and the Main event was pretty damn good.  Rating: 5.8  

Kent:  Now this was something I could enjoy.  Not much fluff or filler, aside from the women’s division as a whole.  Sami cut his best promo is a long ass time, Baron had a very good match, the Usos and New Day did good.  I really enjoyed this, minus Charlotte.  Rating: 6.2 because that’s my height, and you can’t teach that.  Also, Bludgeon Brothers!!!!


Final Thoughts

Russ:  Three days of wrestling in a row and I didn’t want to rethink my life choices!  It is a modern day miracle.  I hope this trend continues, but if I know the abusive relationship I’m in with WWE this won’t last.  Yet, I won’t stop watching either.  

Kent:  Smackdown intrigues me.  Are we getting more Shinsuke vs Jinder?  Are they switching stuff up?  AJ is going to join Shane to take on KO and Sami. With Cena gone, AJ in that feud, Randy already feuded, that leaves Shinsuke and……Bobby Roode or Tye?  I’m telling you, I think KO gets that belt in December somehow.  Also, Tuesday was Perfect 10 Day per this video from wwe.com.


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WWE Extreme Rules 2016 Review…….A Week Later

Let me be forthright with you now. Rocket League made me slack on my blog early in the week. There, I said it. It’s a phenomenal, addicting game that is fun, but hard to perfect. With that out of the way, let’s talk about Extreme Rules, and the week of wrestling.


This picture is from WWE.com and I don’t own the rights believe it or not. This is before Extreme Rules. I liked it.

On the pre-show, they did this bit with the Dudleys getting on the mic and then Big Cass coming down and taking out D-Von. The segment was stupid. You have the greatest tag team ever (my opinion), and they are taken out by Big Cass? I love Cass. I have been backing him since I first saw him. He’s good, but nobody, not Austin, not Taker, not Super Cena, not the Roman Empire, and certainly not a new guy, should be able to single handedly get the upper hand on The Dudleys. If you’re gonna bring Enzo back on RAW, wouldn’t it make more sense to have the Dudleys destroy Big Cass in a 2 on 1 beatdown. On RAW, have Dudleys come out and run their mouth and Big Cass comes out with some bruises or something, but this time he’s not alone, and boom, you have a match for Money In The Bank. FUcking easy booking and make both look like a legit threat. MORONS!!! We also had a match between Baron and Dolph and it was adequate, and Baron won with the low blow. Smart. Baron and Dolph need to team up.

Then the main show kicked off with Usos vs. G&amp;A match. This was good fun. It should have been the opener. Everything went exactly as one would expect and it was paced well. No complaints.They followed it up with Rusev and Kalisto, with Rusev crushing Kalisto is a good match. People forget, Rusev can have good matches with just about anyone. He’s the real deal.  Good match, good ending. New Day took on the Vaudevillains next, and New Day won an ok match, but probably the weakest of the night so far. At Extreme Rules, I would have done something to make the match more vicious. The Vaudevillains are doing way better on the main roster than I ever thought they would, so props to them.

Up next is the IC Title match, and as expected, this match delivered. All 4 guys are legit future stars/ Yes, even The Miz. There is no question in my mind, this was the match of the night. All of these guys work incredibly well with each other. Owens and Zayn have amazing chemistry, and Cesaro and Miz are incredibly adaptable. This is one of the 5 best matches that I have seen this year so far on the main roster.  Lots of action, lots of good nearfalls, and the ending made a ton of sense with The Miz winning while Owens and Zayn were fighting outside. I would have been fine if it had got another 5 minutes, but to be honest, it was a pretty perfect length match that told it’s story and did everything right. If you didn’t like this match, why are you even watching wrestling?

We go from great to the Asylum match with Y2J and Ambrose. I had high hopes for this match. I loved everything that they have been doing. And then they had this long ass match, with silly weapons, and the spots were too bland. The pacing just wasn’t there, and at times, it got boring to be honest, and I hate to say that. These are 2 of my favorites. The match concept simply didn’t work. It was too gimmicky, and it seemed like WWE trying to over-compensate for how bad Dean vs. Brock was at Mania. I didn’t like this one.Jericho went a little too much with the tacks I felt unless he was really trying to sell.

Unfortunately, we had to deal with another Charlotte vs Natalya match with a submission stipulation, and Ric was banned from coming out. So we get this boring ass match, and then the music plays, and a person comes out in a robe, and it’s Dana Brook, and this is enough to help Charlotte win. So another match where it was poorly booked. This is like the female equivalent to Dolph vs. Rusev last year in how bad it is booked. At least we got the term “Dog Ziggler” from that. This match was just the worse. Please, no more between these 2. I don’t understand why so many people think that Natalya is that great. I have tried, and she is fine in ring, but she does very little to entertain me. I like the Dana pairing with Charlotte while Emma recovers from back surgery. I will miss Emma, one of the hottest, and best wrestlers in the women’s division. I think it was a mistake elevating Dana by the way. NXT’s women’s roster is trash at the moment, and Dana could have really benefited from a true feud with Bayley. The main roster could have easily slid Alicia in Dana’s role. Poor booking. I just want Sasha back and healthy.

And then there was one: the main event with Roman and AJ. This match was pretty fucking good. So you mean to tell me that Roman can have a great match if he works with more experienced medium to smaller build guys? No fucking way! Christ, he shouldn’t have been working against the Big Show and others, he should have been learning his craft and looking like a total bad ass all along and getting mentored. He should have been like Batista, in a group, being the muscle, but not the champ. Common sense fails WWE often. With that being said, this was a solid outing, easily the second best of the night.Both guys played their roles incredibly well, and then we had the interference. BUT all of this praise is destroyed at the end. So let’s discuss the one thing that WWE does all the time and it makes me hate being a wrestling fan.

I hate when your over exposed face of the company can get his ass kicked really badly, and then hit 1-3 moves, and win after kicking out of the second best guy’s entire arsenal. It makes no sense and makes the other guy look like shit. Feel disagree, but you are wrong. AJ with the Styles Clash twice, plus all the chair shots, that’s a win. Just don’t give him all of that offense. OR you can have Roman make the comeback, but actually beat down AJ, not the stupid ass fucking spear. I loathe that move with every inch of me. It’s the worst finisher ever in my opinion. Great set up move, horrible finished. If you get pinned after a spear, you aren’t tough, you look like a fucking chump. AJ should have kicked out of the spear since Roman kicked out of everything, and then Roman just go on a rampage and beat AJ down with chairs, and then Superman punch, or a powerbomb. Something that should knock someone out. They have done with with Cena losing 18 out of 22 minutes of a amatch, then suddenly catch the guy, hit the AA, and win. Austin’s stunner, the Rock Bottom and people’s elbow, the Big Boot and Leg drop of Hogan, are all examples of this happening time and time again. The best use of this is the RKO or Diamond Cutter because it can happen out of nowhere and knock a person out. Big Show’s KO punch is another one or JBL’s clothesline from hell, because they can just catch you and it feels more legit. Roman needs to focus on a better finisher than the spear. That Razor’s Edge move that he used was great, so maybe that. Just not the fucking spear. It will hold him back.

Oh, Seth Rollins came out and Pedigree’d Roman after the match, and that was cool.

On Monday, Cody Rhodes got his requested release from WWE and his wife, Eden, got hers a day or 2 later. Sad to see him go. Him, Barrett, Dolph, among others, all got fucked over by the Cena’s of this world hogging the spotlight. Cody deserved better, and he could have been an upper mid carder at the very least, but they wouldn’t let him drop the Stardust gimmick reportedly. I don’t blame him. There’s too many talented people to push, and they insisted on pushing guy who didn’t pay their dues. I have to put the onus on The Shield and The Wyatt’s especially. They were awesome, but they got main event spots that belonge dto other guys who had paid their dues. I’m just waiting for Ryback to be next.

Adam Rose also got released. That’s not a particularly big surprise. Sadly, it appears that the suspension, whether it was justified or not for his prescription, but him going public about it, really hurt. Then to have the domestic incident, which I don’t know the full truth, but that really was the final straw. If he was higher up on the card, maybe he gets some months off to get his shit together. Unfortunately, he is easily replaceable, so when you are easily replaceable, and this stuff happens, you tend to get got.

As for RAW, we got the Seth vs. Roman match set up. We had 5 qualifying matches for Money in the Bank with Sami, Cesaro, Jericho, Dean, and KO all qualifying. Del Rio snagged a spot on Smackdown, and that leaves one more spot. I assume all the losers will have a battle royale for the opportunity, or maybe a garbage night of beat the clock. I predict it will be Kalisto for some odd reason, although Zach Ryder is my dark horse. Charlotte had a bit where she basically made Ric cry and made him leave, and we got to see Arn Anderson at least. AJ losing cleanly to Dean after he told G&amp;A that they couldn’t work together professionally, well that’s a storyline. The Social Outcast interrupted New Day, and Heath got cake in his face. Finally, Enzo returned, and Big Cass defeated Bubba one on one. That was easy enough to wrap up RAW.

Other tidbits

Smackdown will be airing live on Tuesdays and that brings a brand split very soon, with early odds on Roman staying on RAW and Cena being the Smackdown flagship. If that’s the case, I’d put Dean on Smackdown and Seth on RAW. KO can do RAW, move Sami to Smackdown. Enzo and Cass on RAW, New Day to Smackdown. Randy can be Smackdown, as can Kalisto. I will do a fantasy draft when the day is closer, so we know who else is in play, such as Finn, and any other NXT folks. If I was them, I’d do separate belts for everything. World, tag team, and Women’s. I hate the idea of people being on both shows. It ruins it they do a special angle, like HBK vs. Kurt. They have the roster size, make it happen. The women division will be thin, so they need to sign about 8 more women that are on the indies who can come in and work while Bayley and Asuka hold down the fort in NXT and prep Nia and Eva. Alexa may be prepared, and some blonde chick who wears her hat backwards, she could be ready to get some wins on NXT.Blue Pants would be good, and Carmella is improving at a normal pace. All in all, this brand extension is needed. Maybe Apollo can finally shine.

Kane may be running for mayor soon. That’s awesome as Glenn Jacobs is very into politics and knows his shit.

Del Rio and Paige are now dating. That’s an odd pairing, but I like both, so hopefully it works out.

Ryback made a post about possibly being in TNA. They can have him. I’m done with the Big Guy. We have Baron Corbin.

Ric Flair is going to have a 30 for 30 ESPN documentary made soon. If you have never seen a 30 for 30, you should check them out on NetFlix. The Detroit Pistons one is a must watch.

That wraps it up from my end for this week. Maybe I will try doing this weekly. What do you think?

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WWE Battleground 2016 Review: Beat Up John Cena Edition

WWE 2016 Battlerground Review

Russ and I watched this together while Keri and Eric were there live, so this should be fun. Keep in mind, I score everything on a scale of 1 to 9.2 because nothing is perfect. All you internet ass clown kid millennials, you over exaggerate everything and think things are perfection. Morons. I like insulting my readers. The WWE owns all of these images, so respect their authority.

The Usos vs. Breezango


Keri:   So for this review, I will give an overview of the match as well as live audience reaction. Because as we all know what happens in the arena doesn’t come across on TV, thanks to Vince’s mute button. For this match, everyone was still coming into the arena and the ones that were there were mostly pro-Uso. Why I don’t know? Their gimmick is just as tired as Cena’s (ok maybe I’m exaggerating just a little) but I still find them insanely boring. The highlight of this match for me was the random Fandangoing in the crowd (Eric and I included, sadly). The other thing I noticed is Tyler Breeze and Fandango make a pretty good tag team. Their gimmicks are pretty much the same and both blend pretty well together.  Other than that, it was what it was, a warm up the crowd match. Nothing more, nothing less. I say 3 out of 9.2 on this one.

Russ: I missed most of this match, but I wasn’t really invested so no big deal.  I like Breezango I think the team up will help both characters get out of the developmental hell they have been stuck in. The Uso’s bore me, they need to get a fresh gimmick or a good feud cause I just have no interest in what they do.  I honestly can’t score this one.  Meh / 5

Kent: I hate that their name isn’t Breezedango, it sounds so much better to me. Anyway, we didn’t watch this match entirely, but I liked the clusterfuck ending and I liked that BreezeDango won. Also, I love to see the frustration mounting from The Usos. The only problem is that if The Usos turn heel, that shoves Ascension and Breezedango further down the ladder and neither are ready made to be faces yet. I guess we got the Hype Bros at least. I can’t properly score this one, but I’d probably give it a 2 out of 9.2.

Sasha Banks and Bayley vs. Charlotte and Dana Brooke


Keri: This match was the one that Eric and I were waiting for and were talking about on the metro on the way to the arena. The decision was No Bayley, we boo the match.  As soon as the match was announced in the arena you could feel the crowd anticipation. Everyone knew who they wanted to come through that curtain after Sasha. When her music hit, I swear the roof came off the Verizon Center. I’ve been to plenty of events at the Verizon Center and I never heard a reaction that loud.  The playback on TV did not do the crowd reaction justice, in my opinion.  I think we have to keep in mind that Bayley is the future face of the women’s division.  She provides something that the WWE has never had in its history, a woman that grabs the attention of a new demographic, young female fans.  A little girl sees her and they think I can do that, I want to be just like Bayley (think her little NXT superfan).  They didn’t have that with the “divas” of the past.  With that being said, the match, itself was good. I have to say that Dana Brooke is really green though and she should really go back down to NXT. She’s not ready and quite frankly I don’t think she will ever be ready to run with the likes of Bayley, Sasha, Becky, and Asuka. I give this one a 5 out of 9.2.

Russ: I loved hearing Bayley’s music hit.  I also loved how Kent was very sure it couldn’t have been her seconds before.  Now this wasn’t a classic by any stretch of the imagination, but I always enjoy watching the Boss and Bayley do their thing.  Charlotte is …. Terrible.  There I said it.  I can’t stand listening to her on the mic or watching her in the ring.  Dana, I haven’t made my mind up on yet.  I was shocked that Charlotte ate the pin, but it makes sense if they want to give Sasha a reason to go after the belt.  2 / 5

Kent: In my preview I wrote: “Bayley isn’t happening. It would make zero sense.” Right before the mystery partner was being announced, I made a similar bold proclamation to Russ. Then the song hit and I was happy for her, and yet so irritated by the WWE because logically, it was beyond asinine. And Sasha said earlier in the week that we couldn’t guess who it was. Really? I need an adult. Honestly, I wasn’t terribly into the match even after watching it a second time. Oh and I also proclaimed that there was no way that Charlotte was taking the loss. Now I need a hug. I’ll give it a 3.5 out of 9.2 because I love Bayley’s entrance. Oh, and I swear, on one of the wrestling forums I go on, some, to borrow from Y2J, stupid idiots were proclaiming that was one of the loudest pops they have ever heard and arguing that it was easily in the top ten. I HATE America’s youth. I wish to go Hitler on these dumb fucks with no sense of history who proclaim the dumbest things, and then ignore people who try to teach them about how most every Monday night, when Austin or Rock would come out, their pops were bigger than Bayley’s, or when either guy returns, or any legit surprise return. Nothing against Bayley, it was a great pop, but it’s probably not even in the top 100. Rant over. (Editor’s note, according to Keri, the pop was way better than Kent is making it out to be. Kent needs to never mention this match ever again as he was wrong on all levels. Kent is like Jon Snow and knows nothing.)

New Day vs. The Wyatt Family


Keri:  This was the first of two matches on the card where I was torn on who to cheer for because well I like both groups. But when you get an opportunity (and in this case the last opportunity) to cheer for the Wyatts, you cheer for the Wyatts.  Bray Wyatt is the total package. I just hope at some point the WWE sees it and gives him the run he truly deserves.  All in all it was a good match. Not very memorable though but good. My rating: 4 out of 9.2

Russ: The ring psychology in this match was really well done.  Bray is awesome at what he does in and out of the ring.  I loved how Xavier was portrayed throughout this feud.  I thought it gave him more of a second dimension that New Day has been missing.  I also loved how Xavier got past his “fear” and got to battle.  However, the Wyatt’s needed this win more than New Day.  With Bray, this always seem to happen.  He will get a decent win, show some strength, and then get totally buried when it comes to a bigger better feud.  Bray needs some high profile feud wins if he is to be the next face of fear.  2.5 / 5

Kent: I really enjoyed this match. Bray is really a great performer if you pay attention to him, even when he’s outside the ring. Everybody worked great together I felt. Big E almost killed himself with that tackle through the ropes, which would have made my death dream a reality, so that was scary. I loved the buildup between Bray and Xavier as well. It worked when Xavier finally found his balls.  I thought it flowed nicely, and although not a match of the night, it served it’s purpose and was very enjoyable. I’d give this a 6 out of 9.2.

US Title Match

Rusev vs. Zack Ryder


Keri: This match happened. That is all. It wasn’t memorable. It was just decent for basically a squash match. Rating: 3.5 out of 9.2

Russ: Did something way more important than this garbage match, got some good pizza…. Blah blah blah… Rusev Crush…blah blah blah…. Mojo (yay?)  came out the crowd went mild.  I really like Rusev, but his feuds are boring, except when he goes against a true threat.  House of Pizza / 5

Kent: SO Russ and I went and got pizza during this match. I did re-watch it though. This match was exactly what you expected it to be. Rusev crushed Zack. What I didn’t expect or like was the shenanigans after the match with Mojo coming out for the save, and then Rusev backing away instead fucking up Mojo too, or at least trying to fight him off. Holy shit, Rusev’s theme song just came on my playlist of over 1,200 songs. AWESOME! I would have had Rusev be cocky and try to fight off Mojo and then Zack get up and they double team Rusev until he got laid out and rolled out of the ring. That would have built up the Hype Bros so much better. I can’t go any higher than a 2.5 on this because it was nothing special, but the right outcome occurred.

Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens


Keri:  This was the match of the night in my opinion. These two guys are amazing performers and work extremely well together. The crowd was hot for the entire match and I think I may have lost my voice from chanting and yelling (there was a holy sh*t chant that was started by yours truly at one point that only barely came over the TV when I watched the playback).  There was just so much awesome in this match that I almost felt like the crowd could have gone home extremely happy at that point. As I said match of the night (and match of the year candidate) so 9.2 out of 9.2.

Russ:  Ok, I really wish I saw this match a second time, because I’m sure I’d like it even more than I did and I would catch some of the small maneuvers that these two can do that are just magic.  As it was Kent and I always have great discussions when we watch a PPV together so I missed the small cool things that these two do.  However, what I did catch was really well done.  Some of the moves these guys did to each other, like the one on the apron, Scare the crap out of me, but man they look great doing it.  I loved the near falls cause I wasn’t sure who would win this match so it kept me on the edge of my seat.  A contender for match of the year, I’ll watch it again for sure to enjoy all of it.  I will say this, I thought KO should have won this.  He needs to move up to main event status and winning here would have been that elevation he needs in the eyes of fans.  4.2 / 5.   (Kent see what I did here???) (Editor’s note: Yes, yes I did, and I approve.)

Kent: I liked this match a lot and so I will say that I am giving this match an 8.0 before I get to my critique. Today, we overrate matches when we haven’t seen a great match in a while I feel. These guys did amazing, but so many people are saying that this belong right up there with Shinsuke vs. Sami. I have 2 issues with that. First of all, that Shinsuke match was better, there’s a quality gap between the 2, plus the crowd and so many things favor that match. The second thing is that Shinsuke vs Aries gets no love and I am hard pressed to figure out why it’s not rated just as high, if not higher than Sami’s match. I feel it is because Sami is kinda the new Daniel Bryan and everybody has such a hard on for him. Both matches were spectacular and both get a 9, but from sheer match perspective, The Aries one was better, but the crowd was better in the Sami one.  Anyway, this match is in the top 5 for this year, no doubt. A stipulation would have potentially elevated it slightly more for me.

Natalya vs. Becky Lynch


Keri: I was dead for this match due to my post Zayn-Owens hangover. I love Becky. Next to Sasha she is one of my favorites right now in the women’s division.  But the match itself was nothing spectacular. I don’t know if it’s because of the match that it followed or if it’s because Becky and Natalya have zero in-ring chemistry but I felt kind of meh about it. Unfortunately (sorry Becky), I have to give it a 2 out of 9.2.

Russ: Yeah, I didn’t care about this match and it bored me.  Becky has talent, but Nattie is a stiff heel.  Becky needs a good feud with a wrestler who can hold their own.  I doubt this will happen since she is for some reason on Smackdown and the girls on there are…questionable at best.  1 / 5

Kent: This match bored me. Nattie bores me. Becky couldn’t make this match better, and it makes me wonder if I have overrated Becky a bit.  I feel that most of the girls have the Charlotte dilemma where they are only as good as their competition. I feel Sasha, Asuka, Alicia, and Nikki rise above that. Bayley is possibly on that short list. Nothing memorable happened other than Natalya won cleanly. Why in the world is a kick to the knee considered a dirty hit? Really, a kick to the knee is dirty? You do realize all the moves that they do to each other, so a kick to the knee should be very low on the hurt scale. Stupid idiots. I give this a 1 out of 9.2 because I won’t remember this match for any reason.

IC Title Match

The Miz vs. Darren Young


Keri: Still in my Zayn-Owens hangover, I had zero interest in this match at the time. I do, however, feel that WWE dropped the ball here. They spent months building up Darren Young with the whole Backlund make Darren Young great again story line and basically went nowhere with it.  The build to this match was decent and told a good story but the follow through sucked. I blame creative here. Also, what’s with the whole Maryse thing? Miz is already a sub-par wrestler as it is why add a sub-par former divas champion with crappy acting skills to the mix. She doesn’t add any value in my opinion other than to sell the crowd on watching Total Divas (a term which isn’t even a thing anymore).  I say 1.5 out of 9.2 on this one.

Russ: This match was weird.  I like Darren Young, and I really love this heel run of the Miz, so I thought I would really enjoy this match.  However, I just couldn’t get in it completely.  I thought the first ¾ of the match were good, decent pace good moves nice showcase from both guys.  Then the ending happened and made no god damn sense!  Why did the ref decide to just end it?  There was no warning, or a ten count.  There wasn’t even outside interference.  It’s like the ref thought Darren Young was not in the match and decided the attack on the Miz was illegal…. What?  Anyway, the match to that point was enjoyable so.  3/5

Kent: Well Rusev retained, so Darren wasn’t going to bring the IC title to RAW, FACT. This match was short. I loved the Eyes Wide Shut reference in Miz’s entrance, because it’s such an underrated film by the greatest director of all time. I will fist fight you over this. The ending came when Maryse faked getting hit by Bob Backlund, so Bob flipped out tearing off his shirt and then Miz came out all pissy and shoved Bob so that provoked Darren to come out and apply the crossface chicken wing, the greatest submission move ever. Here’s the problem, the ref just ended the match out of the blue. No DQ, no count out, the announcers don’t provide a rhyme or reason for the match ending. Where the fuck was the logic police in this? Just do a 10 count and make it logical, how hard is this? I liked that Darren looked at his hands after, just like Bob as he was slowly snapping back in 93 I believe. As for a rating, ugh, I give it a 2 out of 9.2.  That was the Nia Jax of endings.

John Cena, Enzo, and Cass vs. The Club


Keri: This match woke the crowd up. Enzo and Cass are so over its insane. Personally, I found it extremely difficult to root against these guys. I’ve been big supporters of theirs since NXT so I was very, very torn during this match. With that being said though, they teamed with Cena therefore I have to root against them. I have to give Cena props, as Kent said below, he actually let both guys shine in the pre-match promo. He put them over which is a very rare thing to see from him. Perhaps he is even starting to see the writing on the wall that his days may be numbered and the company is heading in a different direction with the product.  Now for the members of the Club, these guys are amazing to watch. Gallows has come leaps and bounds since his early WWE days and Anderson is fun to watch as well. AJ Styles, well, I’ve become a big fan. The guy in my opinion is one of the best wrestlers on the planet but I have a feeling we will never see the belt on him. As for the match, this match was entertaining and the crowd loved every minute of it.  The only thing that bothered me was the ending. Why oh why did Cena need to get the win for his team. Let Enzo or Cass, the guys who more or less killed it the entire match get the pin. Oh well I guess in this case we had to have the LOLCENAWINS moment to send the kiddies home happy even if all it did was get a collective groan out of the group in my section. My rating 7.5 out of 9.2.

Russ: This was fun!  Enzo cut an amazing promo before the match which was just some of the best work to come out of WWE in a very long time.  I was telling Kent that Enzo and Cass I think are future Stars both of them.  I told him within three months they will split them up.  He thinks I’m crazy, but WWE Logic is bassackward and I firmly believe that they will try to rush these guys up the Card instead of letting them develop a little more.  Enzo isn’t as good in the ring as I’d like, or maybe just the way he plays his character he hasn’t shown his true in ring talent.  Cass is just an awesome hoss!  He has relatively good mic skills and his big man moves are awesome!  The match itself was well paced I love how everyone got time to shine! It could have easily been a cluster fuck.  I love Anderson and Gallows moves.  The no nonsense beat you with power style is second to none.  AJ continues to be one of my favorite performers on the Roster, and one of the bigger reasons I’ll tune into Smackdown.   The best thing about this though…. Watching the bullet club perform their favorite past time….Beating up John Cena!  Overall:  3.5 / 5

Kent: I fucking loved this match. It was the most entertaining one of the night. Not the best, but it had my eyes glued the whole time. Enzo cut a great promo beforehand. Cena didn’t even try to steal his thunder. The way that everything was coordinated was a thing of beauty. When you have these multi-man matches, sometimes people get lost and have to set themselves up for the next person’s move and it’s awkward. This simply flowed perfectly. Karl Anderson is the real fucking deal, and he is a star in the making, I am hoping. He’s my new pet project while Luke is on the sidelines and I wait for Baron to figure things out more. Karl has a great move set, he can talk, has a hot Asian wife, and most importantly, he enjoys beating up John Cena. Gallows is very underrated as well, and we are really getting to see Cass and Enzo shine on the main roster. It’s a rare case where they are shining more after being called up, which is great. I can’t praise this match enough, with one exception. The ref lost control and was simply allowing random people in without worrying about who was legal. It was reminiscent of ECW, which is cool, BUT it was odd. Still, I give this a 7.5 because I understand that Zayn and KO was technically a better match, but not by much. I enjoyed this more.

The Highlight Reel with Chris Jericho and Randy Orton

Keri: This was a decent filler segment. Predictable at best and really Orton, while getting a couple good jabs in about his opponent’s recent drug test news, was really awkward. The crowd for this segment was as they say mild. Rating: 3 out of 9.2.

Russ: Keeping this short.  Really enjoyed this segment.  I love how they kept on joking about the RKO out of nowhere, the way Kent and I were joking about it earlier in the night.  I really loved the “enhancement” line though.  It made the segment memorable and worthwhile!  No rating / 5

Kent: OK, obviously the enhancement line was great, but Orton actually had some very witty things to say and Jericho was a perfect guy to play off of. Orton is not known for his wit, but I really enjoyed it. I don’t care for him pandering to the audience, but I liked his attitude. This segment was fun. No rating.

WWE Heavyweight Championship

Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns


Keri: This match honestly was better than I thought it would be. I mean each wrestler in this match brings something to the table which is why the Shield was so damn successful and possibly one of the greatest factions of all time. With that being said however, Reigns really is awful. Rollins and Ambrose carried him the entire match.  He really had no place in the ring with those two guys.  Creative needs to do something with his character ASAP because the fans hate him and as a result will continue to boo him out of the building. During this match, there was no one cheering for Reigns in the arena (expect for this one guy sitting next to me that I think may be the only Reigns fan on the planet right now) but you could feel the crowd just waiting for the LOLRomanwins ending.  Ok enough about Reigns, and on to the stars of the match, Rollins and Ambrose. Next to Zayn and Owens, I think I could watch Ambrose and Rollins wrestle for hours. There is just too much good stuff that goes on when those two are matched up. Reigns (I know I know I said I was done) did not need to be in this match other than to be on the receiving end of that nostalgic powerbomb through a table. This match for me 7 out of 9.2 (half point off for the Reigns factor).

Russ: I’ll get this out in the open first:  I’m a huge Seth Rollins fan and the fact that he didn’t win is a travesty.  Phew, ok now that I’m done with that.  This was a great match.   The crowd was into it like crazy!  The moves were well executed and they have great Chemistry.  This was the first time we got to see these three face off (in WWE proper) and it did not disappoint, I’m just sad that we won’t get to see a triple threat match at WrestleMania from these three.   I knew Roman wasn’t winning he has to take his punishment, but I am not against Roman.  I feel bad for him.  I Know it isn’t popular, but I don’t think he is that bad and he certainly deserves more credit than he gets from the fans.  He needs to go heel in a bad way.   I’m glad Dean retained he deserves a good run with the belt.  4/5

Kent: I gotta get this off of my chest. If Elmer Fudd feuded with Roman Reigns, he would call him Woman Weigns. There, you’re welcome. Anyway, the crowd responded as you would expect it. Roman is in a can’t win situation and is going to be punished obviously. It’s really now or never to turn him this fall. The fans are rejecting him. The kids and moms do like him, but he isn’t on Cena’s level where it would be devastating. Roman needs to be a bully. Have a run like Bully Ray did in TNA. Anyway, this match was excellent as you would imagine. They hit a bunch of great spots, including a double team powerbomb on roman through a table. I have a huge problem, technically 2, both involving Roman. Towards the end, Seth hit the second rope powerbomb, and Roman no sold it and immediately hit the superman punch. I hate no selling that late in a match when you have clearly taken punishment and that is a hard hitting move. You have to sell that move and find a different move to bounce back from to superman that ho. I also hate how Reigns has won tons of matches with his stupid ass Superman punch or spear, but his awesome powerbombs never get him a win. That is such a logical fallacy. Yes, the punch and spear would hurt from a dude his size, but that powerbomb would just be devastating. Anyway, Dean waited, picked his spot until Seth was taken out by Roman, then hit Dirty Deeds and surprisingly retained the belt. After the match, the Smackdown locker room came out and celebrated. Good for them, especially Dean who is finally getting his due. As for the match, a 7.8 seems fair. I really liked it.

Final thoughts

Keri: This show had its ups and downs with mostly ups. Overall it was a solid event and one that I’m happy to say I saw live. It left me wanting to watch RAW and Smackdown the next two nights which hasn’t happened in a LONG time.

Russ: Overall this PPV was a well done show.  The matches we knew would be good delivered and even over delivered in some respects.  The matches that were garbage were garbage, but at least most of them were short.  I am inclined to say best PPV of the year thus far. Let’s hope with the brand split this trend remains.

Kent: This show was exactly what we figured it would be. The matches we expected to deliver absolutely did and the ones that we though would be mediocre at best we exactly that. All in all, 3 great matches plus the Wyatt match. That’s a solid PPV and looking back, it has to be one of the best of the year so far, if not the best, not including NXT. NXT Dallas holds that distinction and I don’t think any card is topping that one.

I would like to say thank you to the lovely and very talented Russ, and Keri, for their hard work and free labor. Why they accepted this, I have no idea, but it’s awesome. The hope here is to get them on a more regular basis, and try to grow this a bit. Don’t expect them every week,. they got lives and shit, BUT I will be sexually harassing them often to help me out when their schedule allows. They did a fantastic job, and I got some much needed additional perspectives. With that being said, if anybody out there who is reading this would like to contribute on a part time basis, would just like to give this a whirl, please contact me. Leave a comment or find me on Facebook at Superkent’s 9 Deuce Blog Group. Tomorrow I will post our blog on the WWE draft, what went right, what went wrong, and why is Nia Jax on the main roster. Thank you, and enjoy Sharknado 4!

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