The Game of Thrones 9 Deuce – S:7 Ep:5 – The Return of Gendry!!!!

Gendry has returned, feel free to drink that in.  We here at 9 Deuce are extremely happy.  Jon can touch dragons, Gilly is uncovering truths, Davos has too many great lines, Tormund misses the the “big woman”, Cersei is supposedly pregnant, and lots more.  Please enjoy as my panel answer my inane questions.  Any comments in bold are from Kent.

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The 9

  1.  Davos keeps mentioning how he’s no longer useful in battle/fighting.  Do you think that this is a bad omen for his character’s longevity, or is it more to emphasize how important he is in regards to strategy?

Chris:  Davos never was a fighter. I mean the only time we’ve seen him pick up a sword really was last season to defend Jon’s corpse and even then he said he wasn’t a fighter. He was a smuggler and a sailor, a reasonably intelligent man for not being educated, and extremely loyal to Stannis. That was what he was made Hand for, not his sword arm. Plus he gets some of the best lines now. “Don’t listen to me, what do I know? What did I do, other than live to a ripe old fucking age”

Jim:  I think to underscore his usefulness.  You saw in Gendry’s big scene, if he didn’t use his wits, Gendry would not have gotten a clean shot.  Not sure his gift of the gab will help with walkers, but he understates what he is in combat.  I hope he isn’t giving us a death preview, because he does rank in my favorites (not Euron or Bronn but close).  He is however a survivor, and has nearly the same list of near misses as Bronn, so I’d hate to see him go.

Raylene:  I think he’s more useful as a strategizer then as a soldier. He has experience that you would want on your side and his wit will remain a essential role for Jon.

Briana:  I’m going with his importance for strategy. He’s like an old war vet who acts like he’s too old to be useful but when put in a situation where he’s needed, he steps up every time. He probably just can’t quite swing a sword like in his prime! Lol

Kent:  Man, I gotta ask better questions if everybody is agreeing.  I do think this is a bad omen for his character.  By the end of the show, I’m simply not sure if I see a place for his character, which saddens me and I hope that I am incorrect.

 

  1.  Two part question coming up. 1) Do you think that Cersei’s baby is Jaime’s?  2) If she ever lives long enough to deliver the baby, will she actually tell people that it’s Jaime’s?

Chris:  IF she is pregnant it is Jaime’s, with the question being if. If she lives long enough she will. Like Raylene said though there is the curse she was given to consider

Jim:  other than possibly Euron’s or the Iron Banker’s, it really could only be Jaime’s.  I’d like it to be Euron’s, to help me with my prediction, but I do believe it to be Jaime’s.  I don’t believe that she will live long enough to deliver it, or she will lose it, as more penance for what she has done, but if she does for some reason get to deliver it, I do believe she will say it is Jaimes, because she only lives that long if she is in charge, and would only say it if she’s in charge.

Raylene:  I think that the baby is Jamie’s but I don’t believe the child will ever be born since she’s been told all her kids will die. Ceresi does not care of the opinions of the ones she rules over so it will be made public Jamie is the dad

Briana:  No and No. first, I don’t believe she’s pregnant. I think he sees him slipping from her grasp and needed a reason to lure him back in. (If I’m wrong and it turns out she really is pregnant, than yes I do believe it would be his. But I just don’t think she’s pregnant) And with the second part, people already know technically that they’ve got a thing but her coming right out and telling everyone just doesn’t seem like something she’d ever do. She’s fought so hard to be where she is and I guarantee she plans on marrying someone to gain alliance. No way is she going to risk everything to make Jaime feel better.

Kent:  I don’t believe that she is pregnant.  So no to both.  

 

  1.  Jon was able to touch Drogon.  Give me your thoughts on the importance of this.  Chris, I expect a long, articulate response exploring every possibility.

Chris:  All right. One of Kit’s better scenes, he actually looked like he was going to shit himself. We know now that the dragon’s will respond to Targaryen blood. Jon will ride one of them at some point. Definitely the precursor to the later scene where Dany says she has grown used to the king in the north. Other than that not much.

Jim:  I believe different people interpret it differently.  I think Danny thinks it’s a sign she should get with Jon, I believe Jon thinks it is Dany accepting to work with him, and I think we the viewers know it is because he is a targarian.  It does at least answer my question from last week of who will ride the other two dragons…. Jon and Jorah…

Raylene:  Perhaps Drogon can sense that Jon has targarian blood and he will be one riding a dragon

Briana:  Duh! It means Drogon recognizes the Targaryan in Jon. He recognizes him as family, he let us know he trusts him.

Kent:   The importance is that Dany is doing a fine job domesticating Drogon…obviously.  Targaryan blood, blah blah blah.  When Dany gets killed, we know that the only person that Drogon will feel comfortable with is Jon.  

 

  1.  Did Samwell do the right thing in packing up some books and scrolls and mounting up to leave?

Chris:  It gets rid of one more location for filming in and opens up three plot points to focus on coming up. 1) Dany just killed Sam’s father and brother. I don’t remember if Sam had to give up the black to become a maester, but he’s already broken a bunch of vows by banging Gilly. So potentially Sam could now be lord of High Garden and the Reach, and hate Danaerys for killing them. Or be happy she did.(2) Sam has proof now that Jon is the rightful heir to the throne, if we continue to believe in the legitimacy of the Targaryen claim. Rhaegar his father was Dany’s eldest brother, with Jon being he legitimate son, hmm nothing like muddying the succession even more. (3) Sam could possibly have the final solution to the White Walker threat. Since it looks like any dragons kill ed now will be by the undead (undead dragons) Sam might be the trump card in humanity’s survival

Jim:  he thinks so, but I’m not sure what else he can offer but knowledge, and he was in the perfect spot to get it…. I don’t see that family surviving the remaining two seasons because of that..

Raylene:  Unfortunately Samwell was not being used the way he should have been but with him taking the books I believe he will still be useful to Jon I believe he’s headed to him

Briana:  Well, first of all, maybe he should have listened more to Gilly in her ramblings instead of yelling at her but as far as leaving… why not! Like he said, he’s “tired of reading about the accomplishments of better men” Get in there Tarly and do something!!

Kent:  Not only is the whole Jon is a Targaryan thing in those pages, but it appears that the big solution to Winter is probably tucked away in there.  The internet has long believed that Sam and Bran will play huge roles in in making it to Spring.  Of course, it’s the internet and it gets things wrong more often than it gets things right.

 

  1.  It appears that Littlefinger has made his boldest move this season, with Arya finding the scroll.  What will the repercussions be?

Chris:  Mistrust between Arya and Sansa even more. Arya is the only one in the series who has not had to grow relying on others still present in the past 3 years. She hasn’t seen or experienced the shit that went down on Westeros while she was gone. A rational, intelligent person would realize that Sansa wrote that note to stay alive, like Robb did. Arya is still mostly stupid as shown by her discussion with Sansa this week (“They talk badly about Jon, cut off their heads”). I think that mostly this was to show that Littlefinger is as suspicious of Arya as she is of him.

Jim:  I’m not sure they will be huge….  Arya, who doesn’t beat around the bush, rather than let feelings stew, will go direct to Sansa with this…. Sansa, who already distrusts Littlefinger to a degree, will explain it away, and further distrust Littlefinger.  Thought I believe Littlefinger will drive a wedge in the family, this won’t be what does it.

Raylene: I believe it will cause a wedge between the two sister. I think Ayra will make a play to execute Little Finger and wear his face in future scene perhaps making a arrangement to meet with Ceresi

Briana:  It was definitely all about pitting Arya and Sansa against each other. He realizes Arya is his biggest obstacle at this moment in time and he’s stirring the shit pot to get her out of his way. By getting her mad at Sansa, he keeps her from coming after him for Sansa’s sake. Assuming she’s the only reason Arya has to go after him..

Kent:  I don’t think it’s going to result in a divide between Arya and Sansa.  It seems too convenient.  Plus, 9 episodes remain.  Fuck driving the wedge.  I truly am fearing that Littlefinger’s window is closing and he may never make that one truly big play that we have long been anticipating.  If Arya goes to Sansa with this, Sansa will shut that shit down in a hurry, or so it seems given her character development.  I am hoping that I am wrong and Littlefinger does something truly amazing.

 

  1.  If we can all agree that Littlefinger is the most manipulative character in Game of Thrones, which some may not agree, who would you say is the second most manipulative character (or first if you think somebody ranks above Littlefinger)?  Remember, there are no wrong answers, so somebody please Kentertain me.

Chris:  Cersei. She probably isn’t even pregnant, but I can already see her planning Sept of Baelor version 2.0 for her meeting with Jon and Dany in the season finale

Jim:  Mellisandre, the red woman.  She convinced the Light brothers to sell Gendry, Robert to sacrifice Gendry (unsuccessfully), to unleash a shadow vag demon, to murder his brother, to burn his daughter, and has managed to get Danny to accept the lord of light, scare the bejesus outta Varys, escape Davos and Jon, and finally trick all the viewers into checking out super-granny porn, using her words and confidence…. only slightly behind Littlefinger, but above everyone else including Cersei and Varys.

Raylene:  I would have to say Varys

Briana:  I have to go with Cersei on this one. (Also I agree Littlefinger is number 1 master manipulator) Now, Cersei isn’t always sly about her manipulations, in fact half the time, it’s just basic murder. BUT she is always manipulating the situation if not the person. She is the one who coined the phrase “when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die”. Playing the game is all she knows.

Kent:  Tywin and then Varys.  Tywin was so damn good at what he did.  He’s dead, so if we’re going by living characters, Varys makes a lot of sense.

 

  1.  Will Bronn face any repercussions after setting up the meetic between Jaime and Tyrion.  Also, feel free to comment on Tyrion/Dany’s proposal to Cersei/Jaime.

Chris:  Fuck no. Now that he is talking to Tyrion again, he is going to be looking for the best possible offer. Bronn helping Tyrion survive whatever Cersei is planning is going to be the thing she does plan for, but then Jaime is going to sacrifice himself for his brother

Jim:  yes but not immediately…. Cersei will be the death of him, like he was foretelling Jaime.  She never forgets, and I think once the “worst plan ever i.e. Bring a zombie to Kings Landing” is done, she will get him.

Raylene:  Yes Ceresi will not forget that he betrayed her she may even have The Mountain take him out. I can see that plan becoming a disaster and making many white walkers in a short period of time

Briana:  I think Jaime will send him to Dany and Tyrion before he would punish him. The man has saved his life more times than I can remember and I don’t think Jaime is that callous. But if Cercei forces it, he will make him disappear without actually hurting him. And their proposal was of course the only option. Being Cercei, I wouldn’t believe it but if they can produce a body, there’s no reason for anyone to back down from this.

Kent:  So I tend to live in the glass is half empty world, so that’s one of my bigger fears.  I don’t think his death would be enough to drive a wedge between Jaime and Cersei though, so I think that he’s safe.  I don’t think that he will deal with any repercussions.  

 

  1.  Gendry is back!!!!  I know some of you lost faith in him returning (Chris), but it’s true.  Do you think he has any chance of holding a high position when all is said and done?  Something like the Hand of the King/Queen or something else along those lines.

Chris:  God fucking Damn it! As soon as the smith street was shown I started swearing at the t.v. My wife and son were sitting on the front porch this morning for his first day of school this year and she heard me through the window. I was like fuck, now I have to eat 3 eyed crow when I talk to Kent. No position, unless when he and Arya get together they do some kinky shit

Jim:  no…. his honesty will be the death of him…. whether it is Littlefinger, Sansa, Cersei or Dany, someone with a hardon (or lady wood) for power will see him as a threat.  I really thought he would be brought in to make Valarian Steel…. not play Thor in the Winter Avengers….

Raylene:  As long as he stays with Jon then I think he will be safe since he’s so honest to a fault I could see other kingdoms finding him a threat. Maybe even a position at The Wall

Briana:  Honestly, I don’t think he wants anything like that. I think he’s a simple guy who enjoys his work. He is down to fight bc he knows it’s partly his fight to join but I don’t think he’s looking for royalty status. He just wants the bitch to stop hunting him. I think he’ll end up being the blacksmith of the court! (No clue what that title would actually be called but it sounded good to me! Lol)

Kent:  Yes, I got one wish…..one GLORIOUS wish that came true.  I was so happy.  Yes, I think that he will hold some important role when all is said and done.  He didn’t come back to be nothing in the end.

 

  1.  At the end of the end of the episode, we saw the greatest grouping yet in Game of Thrones with Jon, Davos, Gendry, Jorah, Tormund, The Hound, Dondorian, and Thoros.  It seems inevitable that somebody is going to die on this venture.  Who do you think it will be?

Chris:  Davos didn’t go. Tormund had a great line (“Did you bring the big woman?”). I can foresee the drift of the rest of the season now, and this shit definitely foreshadows Cleganebowl dude. Ducking awesome ending and the next episode is second to last which are usually the most expensive to film, due to special effects

Jim:  foreshadowing points to Davos or Jorah, but I think it will be the Thoros, with Dondorian passing the power of fire to the Hound (hopefully) (side not, not sure if I got the names mixed up…. eye patch will die, man-bun with pass powers).  Gendry will live to get shanked later.  Tormund will live, because they want to give us ugly sex with him and Brianne.

Raylene:  One of the people with The hound will die but not before he learns how to use the power of the light since they seem to be leaning towards him learning even with his fire anxiety

Briana:  Easy answer would be one of the brothers but I have a bad feeling about Jorah and Davos in this one.

Kent:  My apologies, Davos didn’t go.  I think it is Thoros time, which won’t seem like a big one, but it kinda is,  This is also how the Hound’s role increases.  Tormund also strikes me as a possibility.  I hope not, but TV shows aren’t kind to gingers.

 

Bonus Deuce

  1.  Who was your MVP of this episode?

Chris:  Gilly. She cleared up with one sentence the whole question of who has the right to the Iron Throne

Jim:  Littlefinger made the strongest single move, but Davos won it…. pulling out Gendry, smuggling in Tyrion, persuading the guards with rotten crabs (the first time), and his interaction in Eastmarch all add up to a win for me.  Hopefully it’s not his swan song…

Raylene:  Davos his quick thinking and planning is essential to survival and winning

Kent:  Davos because he made my wish come true, plus had a ton of great lines. This was Davos’ episode in my opinion.  Which is raising a big red flag for me.

 

  1.  The prophecy of Azor Ahai pops up every now and again, and we know that we will inevitably find out who he, or she, may be.  Make a prediction on who you think it is.  For reference, I will leave you this link so you can read it in case you aren’t familiar with this prophecy.  Please know that this is going to happen, this isn’t some theory.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Azor_Ahai

Chris:  If we go by what the show us shown us so far, it can only be Gendry, Jon, or Dany. Those are the only 3 with Targaryen blood left (Robert’s grandmother was a Targaryen, which is why he became king after killing Aerys, rather than Ned or Tywin or Jon Arryn). Jon and Dany both fit the reborn part. Dany gave birth to dragons from stone. Gendry could reforge Lightbringer. The sword’s identity would be the big clue, if Dany starts waving a new magic sword around its probably going to be her. On the other hand Jon burned the shit out of his hand before he used Longclaw to kill the wight in Castle Black, so if Longclaw is Lightbringer than it would be Jon.

Jim:  if you move past the gender wording, I do think it is Dany, because she did help sacrifice a prince (her stupid brother).  Everyone wants it to be Jon, but I can’t think of anyone else but Dany when I read the prophecy…. sadly, as I would prefer nearly anyone else…. not that I dislike her, but I Would prefer the Lord of Light to be someone unexpected…. like Bran.

Raylene:  I am hoping that it’s Tryion

Briana:  Based on what we’ve already seen, I feel it has to be Jon or Dany or both. It’s part of why I think they’re meant to be married. Someone mentioned the prophecy is open to interpretation as far as who and why. Both Jon and Dany were born again from the fire and the two of them are the only ones who can bring everyone together to fight the white walkers. Then again, with everyone talking about the hound gaining powers and whatnot, maybe he will jump in and surprise us!

Kent:  There are so many awesome ideas out there, just look on YouTube.  I feel that Meera has a bigger role to play.  Jon and Dany seem too obvious and have been given the push already.  I say that the writers would be smart to elevate another character, whether it be Tyrion, Jaime, Hound, or someone else.  I am going with Meera.  I still think that 2 babies were born up in that tower.

Final Thoughts

Chris:  Another great episode. Some awesome lines (See Davos and Tormund above). Yay for Kent, Gendry’s back. I liked his interaction with Jon. The scene where Jorah comes back was pretty awesome. One reviewer described it as “Jorah shoots Jon a look that’s nuanced, wary, appraising, resigned.Jon shoots a look back at him that says, “It windy.” ‘ The whole grouping at the end is awesome. Bronn calling Jamie a cunt. The look on Jaime’s face when Cersei tells him not to betray her again. All in all I can’t wait for the next 2 episodes

Jim:  Euron will return to real havoc soon, and bringing a zombie to Kings landing is the worst idea ever….  I do feel like the Winter avengers should have had more triumphant music, but they will have an amazing fight sequence next week with the dead, and it will have great tense music then..  also, with the Winter avengers teaming up to go with the stupidest idea ever, it is at least moving us back closer to the Cleganebowl.  Plus the Hound will use his newfound light powers against zombie mountain !!!

Kent:  The next time somebody asks me for a favor, I am going to continuously ask them to bend at the knee and see how beloved I become.

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The Wrestling 9 Deuce – August 7 & 8, 2017 – The Unfortunately We’re Back In Canada Edition

In this week’s Wrestling 9 Deuce, Russ and I tackle the week that was in Canada buddy.  RAW was surprisingly solid thanks to 4 really decent matches.  Smackdown was better on the talky side of things, not so much in ring.  We also found out that Bayley is out for Summerslam, as is Scott Dawson of the Revival.  Charlotte had her ass exposed in her match, and much, much more.  Also, those fans at RAW were absolutely awful.

Of course, we also did our podcast, Are You Not Kentertained, where we discuss some of these topics and others, plus do our weekly segments.  It’s like a verbal companion to the blog. Please check us out at facebook.com/9deuceblog , on Twitter @official9deuce, or Instagram at Official9Deuce.  Share this, like this, write us an email with a question at wrestling@9deuce.com.  Thank you.

The 9

  1.  Sheamus fought Seth and Cesaro fought Dean.  Which match did you prefer?

Russ:  Both matches were good, but Cesaro and Dean got a lot more time and that actually helped them.  Seth vs. Sheamus felt more like evening the score out between the two instead of a full fledged match.  It was fine for what it was, but they definitely had a better match last week.  Cesaro and Dean on the other hand was given time and told a decent story.  It was interesting that the crowd didn’t really get into this until after the first commercial break.  Then the crowd was going crazy with chants and cheers.  Dean and Cesaro have good chemistry together, I’d like to see more of them.  

Kent:  Just last week I sang the praises of Sheamus, and he had a good TV match.  Then Dean and Cesaro tore the house down in one of the best TV matches all year.  What a great display for both guys.  If Dean would get the time and not be so goofy, he could give us more of this.  Cesaro, well still climbing the ranks of all time greats to never wear the main championship.  Yes, he’s really high up in that discussion.

  1.  Are you a fan of how the set up for the Bray vs Finn match has gone so far?

Russ:  It kind of feels like they have done this before.  Where an opponent thinks he is more Bray than Bray is.  However, I won’t say I hate it because Finn doesn’t seem to be giving into the Demon stuff.  Which is good because we don’t want the Demon to come out during the first match that wouldn’t be any fun.  

Kent:  I do like it.  The less that these guys do physically to each other, the better.  Finn showcasing his speed is going to be the story of the match I hope.  This match could be a show stealer at Summerslam.  It won’t be, but it COULD be.

  1.  In honor or our missing colleague, Keri, let’s talk about the women.  Let’s talk about the fans being dicks to Bayley and the two matches.  Thoughts?

Russ:  Well, I’d say the fans were being dicks to Bayley, but really Bayley has been poorly booked and characterised by the WWE lately and the fans are starting to sour on her.  Yeah, Canadian fans think they are above it all, but they sometimes make a good point.  This time they made a good point.  If they are going to fuck up the Bayley character this badly then we should be booing her.  We complain about her all the time on the podcast.  I just think the Canadians are listening to us.  As for the matches.  They were ok.  The two most obvious choices won so it wasn’t a shocker.  I thought Emma looked good out there, too bad she never had a chance.  Nia looked good in her match, but man her competition was hot garbage.  I am pretty sure next week Sasha is going to win.  So we may just end up with a decent match after all at SummerSlam.  

Kent:  Canadien fans like to think that they are special.  They are not.  There is no reason to boo Bayley, so screw you buddy.  “I’m not your buddy, Guy.”  Yeah, well I’m not your guy, Friend.  “I’m not your friend, Buddy.”  Huh, talking to Canadiens is confusing.  Seriously, did they have to put the 3 best talents available in the one match and then….well Nia was in a match.  Emma looked like a million bucks, as was expected by yours truly.  Alicia was great in her role.  So naturally Sasha won.  Fuck that.  I want to give Nia props for doing a really good job with her shoulder to the ring post spot.  She’s been working on it for a long time and it is showing.  Also, when Nia goes face, she’s going to be a star.  I am noticing that she is starting to get a sense for the moment, when to pose and show off a bit.  Dana on the other hand….not so much.  I wish Emma would have taken Dana’s spot.  Mickie is criminally underutilized on RAW.

Here is Alexa on Sportscenter.

http://www.wwe.com/videos/alexa-bliss-discusses-her-raw-women-s-title-defense-at-summerslam-on-espn-s-sportscenter

I believe this week also had Alexa’s birthday, so I found this gallery of 30 of Alexa’s best pics per WWE.

http://www.wwe.com/gallery/30-stunning-photos-of-alexa-bliss#fid-40123415

Finally, to stay on the women, here is Sasha as a zombie. I’d still hit it.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/mattel/gallery/sasha-banks-wwe-zombie-photos#fid-40122788

  1.  Who should Titus choose as his next client in Titus Worldwide?

Russ:  I’d like to see Heath join the ranks of Titus.  He’s got kids!  So does Titus, so he knows how important family is.  Titus and Heath could do some great things together on the mic and Heath is that star that just needs a spark to move really improve his status.  I think joining Titus Worldwide could be that spark and Titus Worldwide needs the star power of Slater.  

Kent:  I say run with this as long as they can and then when Bayley returns, have her lose a bit, and then have Titus boost her up.  She’s not great on the mic, but Titus is.  He also wears purple, so Bayley would fit in.  I think this would help everybody involved.  Then if they ever need to do the Bayley boyfriend storyline, Apollo would be available while Titus could be ridiculous.  I haven’t read Russ’ answer, but my answer is better than his.

  1.  WWE gave away Roman vs Braun in a Last Man Standing match for free.  Was this a good decision.  Also, if you have any thoughts on the match, regale us with now.

Russ:  I’m not sure why WWE is all of the sudden giving PPV level matches for free on TV, but I’m not complaining.  This was a really good showcase between the two men and the ending almost made sense.  I mean Kent is right why did Joe not take out Braun as well?  The lead up to this fatal-four at SummerSlam has given me high expectations for that match.  Which I know can’t possibly live up to what I want now, but man they are doing a great job with this!  

Kent:  I feel all Last man Standing matches should strictly be PPV matches that end feuds.  No exceptions.  This was  apretty good match.  I hate how much Braun had to sell the spear and how little Roman sold at the end.  The big issue I have with this was that after Joe took out Roman, why didn’t he take out Braun as well?  It makes Braun seem like a lesser threat than Roman, and it was kinda insulting.  I hate ending this on a sour note, so good effort by Roman and Braun!

I also have lots of good Braun related stuff this week.  First of all Braun met up with the man who plays The Mountain in Game of Thrones.

https://www.thescore.com/news/1349597-braun-strowman-hangs-with-the-mountain

Braun recently did an interview where he put over Roman.

https://www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/braun-strowman-puts-over-roman-reigns-in-major-way-during-wide-ranging-interview/

Then of course, there is Braun doing a table reading for Juno, which Eric originally reported to me.  What a week!

Braun Strowman Does Table Read For ‘Juno’, Charlotte Comments On Media Tour In China, Outsiders vs Steiners (Video)

Finally, if you want actual video of the chair toss, which you know you do, here you go.

Braun Strowman tosses a desk chair at the head of Roman Reigns and thus creates the perfect GIF

  1.  Which feud has you more excited at the moment: Rusev vs Randy or Baron vs Cena?

Russ:   Well, this one is easy for me:  Baron vs. Cena.  The main reason is that Randy has never been a wrestler that I enjoy.  Yes, he does have good matches and sometimes I like what he does.  However, for the most part I just think he is boring.  Since winning the title at Mania he has been almost unbearable.  Not to mention Randy has been on a major losing streak and needs a win.  Rusev is a master at getting buried. We all know how this will end.    

Kent:  Well, we all know that I have been hoping for months now, that Cena would face Baron.  Of course I am excited.  With that being said, Cena isn’t putting Baron over yet.  He NEEDS that win so that when Baron cashed in MitB, then Cena can say that he beat him.  Cena NEEDS all wins all the time.  My pick is Rusev vs Randy.  Randy got his first win in what seems like months this week.  Rusev is in desperate need of a big win, and Randy as seemingly embraced taking on guys who need a rub this year.  With Bray, he seemed to embrace it.  With Jinder, he tried, but the writing ruined it.  With Rusev, I think they can have at least a 6.5 if not 7.0 match.

  1.  What will help the women’s division more: Charlotte’s opponents pulling her pants down or the return of James Ellsworth?

Russ:  This is a tough one!  James Ellsworth coming back is a big thing, especially for Carmella, but Charlotte’s face when she realized her shorts were down…Priceless.  The “Thank you, Lana” chants were fantastic.  I think it completely eclipsed poor James making his triumphant return.  I think that should be Lana’s new gimmick.  Everytime she gets in trouble in a fight she pants her opponents.  I’d watch every match!  

Kent:  We all know what I’m going to say.  James MF’N Ellsworth is the obvious choice.  Go do a search for Charlotte nude and go play a rousing game of 5 against 1 if you need to.  Ellsworth is the Women’s savior because he’s the best on the mic and gets over Carmella’s opponents.  Of course he’s the answer.  Russ, you’re a pervert.

  1.  We know that Shane is going to get involved in the Summerslam match.  In the end, who will he help win?

Russ:  Well, it seems the obvious choice would be to help AJ win.  This will get KO out of the championship picture and into an interesting feud with Shane.  The feud could easily make it to Survivor Series and hell they might even push it to The Royal Rumble.  Although, I kind of hope that they might pull a fast one on us and he instead helps KO win and then Shane and KO form a faction that will rule Smackdown, while Daniel Bryan tries desperately to fix the wrongs of the duo.  

Kent:  I have been wondering if Shane may be due for a heel turn.  I like that Daniel and Shane by and large just make matches, but that’s not WWE’s style.  They like having an evil ruler sooner than later.  With Kurt running shit on RAW like a mayor, and Daniel never going heel EVER again, Shane makes sense to help KO here.  So I’ll say that he helps AJ because I like providing explanations for how wrong I am.

  1.  We now know that Double AA, the OG of the A Double level, was behind the Tully thing.  We also know that Fandango was abducted by aliens.  We always knew that Konnor likes pie….way too much.  What revelation is most interesting to you and is this ever leading to The Ascension getting a feud or taken seriously at all?  Also, what the hell happened to the Hype Bros storyline?

Russ:  Well Konnor liking pies isn’t exactly a revelation. It’s more of a fact.  I thought AA being the mastermind behind the Tully incident was fantastic!  I can’t believe it didn’t dawn on me until after seeing Arn that it made perfect sense.  The aliens were also a nice touch to clean up the case of the missing Dango.  Now can we please get them into a proper feud?   

Kent:  Really, how did I not figure out that it was Arn Anderson?  It made me feel so utterly stupid.  Fandango being abducted was a fine revelation, especially if they go places with it.  Still, I gotta say, I did not know of Konnor’s love of pie until this week.  That was always The Rock’s go to delicacy.  So what I am basically saying is that Konnor is the next Rock.  Trust me.  As for the Hype Bros, I feel bad for them because the timing never seems to be right, and the one time it was, Zack got hurt.  After Summerslam, please do an angle with them challenging for the belts.

Here’s the full video.

http://www.wwe.com/videos/did-tyler-breeze-find-fandango-in-the-return-of-fashion-peaks-smackdown-live-aug-8-2017

Bonus Deuce Deuce

  1. Rate RAW

Russ:  I’m going to say that overall this wasn’t a bad night.  We got a few decent matches and the last man standing match was a solid piece of business. Rating:  6.3

Kent:  I enjoyed myself.  For an overall show with 4 solid matches, this is better than some PPVs this year in all honesty.   I’ll give it a 6.8.  I am subtracting points due to that annoying ass crowd though.  Go fuck yourselves for booing Bayley.

  1.   Rate Smackdown

Russ:  James Ellsworth returned, Charlotte mooned the crowd, WWE used logic about something that happened a few months earlier and Fashion Peaks answered a lot of burning questions..  These are the makings of a decent show.  Rating:  5.5

Kent:  Smackdown may have not had solid matches, but they had a woman’s ass, a lot of stuff with Fashion Peaks, a continuation on some of their best storylines without blowing their load, and the return of the women’s division MVP, James Ellsworth.  Not as good as RAW in all honesty though, so 5.3.

Final Thoughts

Russ: Who knew that two guys with the same name (spelled differently) in the same week could have me cheering for them both!  Thats right Bronn and Braun both had fantastic outings this week in their perspective worlds.  Bronn for injuring one of the Dragons and saving Jamie from becoming a crispy treat.  Braun for throwing an office chair perfectly at Roman.  Kudos Gentlemen  I salute you both.  (Jesus, that was beautiful Russ.)

Kent:  Well, yeah, I was going to talk about Game of Thrones.  I will say this, Jaime was SMART for trying to go after Daenerys when he did.  We go over this, plus much more at The Game of Thrones 9 Deuce.  Cross promoting is fun!  I have a few more things of wrestling interest though.  Yeah, lots of links this week.

Here’s the 50 best bikini pics from WWE this summer.

It’s also the 20th anniversary of DX.  I’m surprised not many shout outs to Rick Rude’s involvement.  There’s a great tribute by New Day at the bottom of the first one.

http://www.wwe.com/section/overtheropes/article/dx-20-anniversary-reactions

http://www.wwe.com/gallery/wwe-superstars-d-generation-x-20th-anniversary-tribute-photos#fid-40123205

Here’s a cool live performance in NYC of Shinsuke’s theme song.

Finally, I am going to end this on a more serious note.  There’s a guy who won the 3rd season of Tough Enough, along with John Morrison, named Matt Capotelli.  Some of you long time fans may remember him.  He had to retire super young due to a brain tumor.  Well he had been good for 10 years, but it came back, only worse.  So there’s an interview with wwe.com that they did with Matt.  It’s well worth a read.

Matt Capotelli Interview

All, but one, pictures used in this blog are for review purposes. They are property of WWE and wwe.com.

The Game of Thrones 9 Deuce – S:7 Ep4 – Bronn Still Doesn’t Have A Castle Edition

So that’s what a huge battle between main characters looks like.  That was cool, and absolutely terrifying if you’re a fan of Bronn or Jaime.  I’m back with my roving gang of GoT fans who are here to help me answer the questions that were on my mind this week.  We finally got Briana on board, which I have been hoping for, so I’m excited.  Also, I don’t think this is necessary, but I apologize for the picture quality, but as you know, this is a very poorly lit TV series. Any comments in bold are from Kent.

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The 9

  1.  Give me your thoughts on Bran and Meera’s interaction when Meera Reed went to say goodbye after such a long journey.

Chris:  She obviously wanted his bone (thinking that there is the potential for a lot of disability porn in this show, from not being able to walk to not having a penis). Joking aside, she gave up everything she and her family had to help her brother help Bran reach the 3 eyed raven, and he no longer seems to carry the emotional bonds that he did when she started. Overall, from that interaction she wanted to see if losing everything she had and all the hardships she had endured were worth it. In her mind now, probably not  Can we go back to the disability porn for a moment?)

Jim: it just demonstrates how detached he’s becoming.  I know, I’m going to drop a little high school English douchyness…. but it’s kinda like flowers for algernon…. give someone all the knowledge, they lose their personality or desire to interact normally.  He could have been a happy dumb cripple dreaming of climbing and watching incest …. but now he has the knowledge of all time, and can’t talk to his family without referencing hate porn or mentioning things better left unsaid.. (Back to back responses with porn in it.  Wow, I’m impressed.  We are raising the bar today apparently.)

Raylene: Bran has the pressure of the world and beyond on his shoulders and in his head. I would say he was a tad ungrateful for what she and others sacrificed to keep him safe.  

Kristi:  She overreacted. It’s not a secret that Bran is not exactly an emotional guy. What did she expect exactly? (That is a fair point.  Bran hasn’t really been a happy go lucky child since climbing that one fateful day. Realistic expectations should come into play.)

Briana:  Obviously, it was a bit awkward but not surprising for Bran at this point. His meeting with Sansa after all that time was similar. He doesn’t seem to have real feelings of his own anymore so that makes it difficult to respond to people in a way they want him to. (He’s basically in the mindset of not having to placate people.  That does have some benefits.)

Kent:  A bit more gratitude on Bran’s part would have been nice.  There wasn’t any reason for him not to, aside from having his head far up his own ass.  With that being said, on her way home, I bet she ends up in a situation that Bran helps her in.

 

  1.  Is Dany being A) Smart or B) Stupid, by continuing to ask Jon to bend at the knee?  Also, do you really want to see her in a relationship with him?

Chris:  I am shipping this relationship like UPS marrying FedEx. (You go girl!) At this point on the (nominal) good guy side all we really have left are Jon and Dany. They pretty much are being forced into relying on each other. Plus you know what they say

Jim: No, keep the Lannisters at the peak of incest, don’t let the Targaryens/surprise Targaryens  try to one up them.  I think she already has what she wants, and is silly to stubbornly re-ask for a bend of the knee…. if he does, it’ll drive a wedge in the north (for Littlefinger to step in), and she should know that (maybe to demonstrate her ignorance as a ruler) (They are most certainly making her ignorant as of late.)

Raylene:  She really is pushing it like you agreed to help fight the white walkers. If she takes the throne then sure have people bend the knee to her. He may already have done it because they had that cut away scene in the cave. (She’s the on her knees in that scene….duh.)

Kristi:  C. Annoying as hell. I do not want to see them in a relationship. I don’t watch the show for love stories. I would like to see them join forces though. (Fun fact: when I give an option between two choices in these blogs, somebody will inevitably choose something entirely different.)

Briana:  Well I do find it entertaining! Lol! But I think she’s showing him that she isn’t a queen who backs down from what she demands. Do I think it will work on Jon? No, but I don’t think it’s stupid. To run that into the next question, I think he is starting to find it kinda hot! Haha! Yes they should be together absolutely! They would make amazing rulers together, it solidifies the kingdom as one and I think they compliment each other in a way that would make them a good team for the throne. (Are you secretly hoping that they are related as well? )

Kent:  She’s is being the most obnoxious character this season, which is a tad unsettling based on how she is supposed to be a hero of sorts, at least to her crew.  I am hoping that maybe Jon stabs her….sexually and then he stabs her….with a knife and rules everything.  Dany acts like all she did was watch Disney Princess shit growing up.

 

  1.  Sansa is the “Queen of the North” while Jon is away, and now she has 2 of her siblings back in Arya and Bran.  She still doesn’t seem happy.  What do you think she is really concerned with at the moment?  Where is her mind at right now?  Also, listen to this song while thinking about it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gkibxWr0DY

Chris:  I think Sansa is less about being Queen of Everything and more about being in a position where no one can hurt her or has power over her anymore. If Jon listened to what she said and did as he was told by her I don’t think there would be any issue. In regards to the siblings Sansa: a)treated Jon like shit because her mother did, (b) loved Robb the best, (c) treated Arya like shit because she was a tomboy instead of a lady , (d) liked Bran, and (e) Rickon was too young to really matter. So the only sibling she has left who she used to get along with is acting like an emotionless, sibling hate porn, timelord, the other one who she didn’t used get along with is an ass-kicker, and the half brother that she tormented is now her king. She has been raped, humiliated, and has Littlefinger trying to Littlefinger her. I wouldn’t be happy either.  (I can’t possibly add anything to this other thank, we do enjoy Littlefinger jokes her.  Well said. Note that Bri says that Littlefinger up Sansa’s ass may not be a “ray of sunshine”.  I am continually lowering the bar.)

Jim:  I think part of it is the things Littlefinger has whispered in her ear, part of it is trying to think about what he is doing, and how to prevent it, and finally, there is still part of her that is a petulant brat who feels like this should be her full time.  You saw that slightly pouty look when Jon was named King of the North.  You saw Littlefinger give her the look as it happened….  I think that is still there.  (Will her desire to get what she wants be enough to allow Littlefinger to slide on in and help her achieve her goal?  I hope so!)

Raylene:  Plain and simple I think she wants to be Queen of the 7 kingdoms.  (I hope so.  She would be such a bitch.)

Briana:  It could be that she’s still not certain Jon’s plan is a good one and she’s worried he may not actually come back? Also, if I had little finger up my ass like that, I might not be a ray of sunshine either! Lol But in seriousness, it could be just that everything she’s been through has made her hard to the world. She will never be the same again and I doubt she will ever be optimistic or hopeful about anything the rest of her life.  (If she became a legit ruler, would she just be a bitter ruler with constant resting bitch face?)

Kent:  Good song.  I’m glad I thought of that.  Sansa is the hardest character to fully read this season, so major props to Sophie Turner and the writers.  Yes, we know that she wished that Jon would take more of her advice and we know that she is just tolerating Littlefinger, but she also hates that there is a lot of truth in what he says, despite his intentions.  In all honesty, I think that she secretly likes running shit for now, but she also can’t wait for Jon to return and lift the weight off of her shoulders.

 

  1.  If you were on Trial By Combat and had to choose somebody to fight for your life, who would you choose out of the Game of Thrones characters?  Don’t choose Bran because that’s just cheating.

Chris:  Bronn. The only normal human, trial by combat survivor still on the show. What can I say I’m a Bronnie

Jim:  if its of all the characters, I’d say Jaquen (the faceless god)…. he could easily own Arya, or anyone else…. but for the sake of it using current characters..  I’d say Jon…. because I’m not sure he can die anymore..

Raylene:  The hound

Briana:  Definitely Arya! That girl is a beast!!! And no one sees her coming!

Kristi:  Arya. She’s just a badass chic.

Kent:  Man, lots of good points here.  With Arya, I wouldn’t trust her to win against The Mountain.  In my mind, it has to be somebody who could topple either form of The Mountain. So in that regard, I would go with The Hound.  But the Hound lost to Brienne and Brienne lost to Arya.  See how this shit gets difficult?  It’s the rock paper scissors game.  Chris is right, Bronn is the one with the best track record, so go for Bronn.  Next week, if I remember, I will be asking who would win between Ser Davos and Jorah Mormont.

 

  1.  We’ve now seen how the ballista works on the dragon.  Do you think any human is actually going to kill a dragon in this show, with or without help from a machine?

Chris:  Possibly. A different question than what you asked on the podcast, which was will a dragon die. Most definitely to the second.  (That is how we lure people to listen to our podcast.)

Jim:  I see one dragon getting knocked off…. of course with a machine or mystical help (white walkers?). I think the ballista is a red herring..  now that they have seen it, they won’t fall for it again, but I can see something else coming into play..  (Did you ever watch A Pup Named Scooby Doo with the kid named Red Herring?  It was a really funny shot lived show.)

Raylene:    I think that now that Dany knows about them her fighting style will be a little different. I do have a feeling something will be applied to the tip of the arrow perhaps a poison that takes the dragon down.  (If anybody can come up with a poison for the dragons, it would be Qybern.)

Kristi:  I really hope not but I have a bad feeling that we may see one die. (I know you hate my death of animal questions.)

Briana:  something tells me yes. I really don’t want to see it happen but I feel like the way this show is, it just wouldn’t be normal if they let all of the dragons make it through the entire series.  (Right, this show can’t let things we love continue to live.  Sacrifices must be had for ratings!)

Kent:  There’s the whole 3 headed dragon prophecy or whatever.  Yes, yes, book readers mock me for my ignorance.  So now that Dany’s army knows what they have, strategically, they should be able to avoid that.  Still, Qybern is my ace in the hole.  If Cersei has some money and is letting Qybern come up with protection, I believe that 2 dragons will in fact go down.  Qybern will also then promptly die.

 

  1.  Was it a smart or dumb move for Dany to actually bring the dragon into battle?

Chris:  Boo yeah! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Cersei. In hind sight super smart

Jim:  smart…. no Lannister army men will stand against her after hearing the stories of the survivors….  she wins the battle before the fight..

Raylene:  It had to be done to show the ultimate power she brings with her

Kristi:  Smart. I think it’s time she showed off what she is capable of. Everyone knows she has dragons but seeing them in action is a whole different game.

Briana:  Definitely smart. She’s been sending troops all over the 7 kingdoms with very little success. She needed to show she can and will take the kingdoms and going after Lannister soldiers with a dragon right after they just killed her ally was the best choice, politically and for the sake of war.

Kent:  Smart, of course it is, but I have also been saying she should have done this from the very beginning.  For all of the people who continue to suggest that Dany should take the approach she did, by not going to King’s Landing and fucking up a tiny section for fear of the lash back, I will offer you something to seriously consider.  So rather than doing what has to be done and could have minimalized casualties, and be seen as a mean bitch for a few months, this is what has happened.  1. Her unsullied are stranded with barely any provisions, but they got Casterly Rock (yaaaaay!).  2. Ellaria and Tyene are captured and will be rotting and there goes her Dorne support.  3.  Olenna, along with the rest of Highgarten and all that money, well that’s gone.  4. Here’s the best one.  The supplies that were heading to King’s Landing, to help feed those people that she didn’t want to kill, well she burned them so she will simply starve them out.  That’s a great way to win over people, right?  Yeah, sorry for bringing logic into this, Internet, but the direct approach was always the most logical and would have resulted in significant;y less casualties and helped maintain more loyalty.  (Drops mic)

 

  1.  How many more episodes before Littlefinger finally makes the big play for something important?

Chris:  Next season

Jim:  if Bran tells anyone anything about Littlefinger, he dies that episode…. that being said..  it happens this season, where he makes a play…. I still see a raven coming from him, and going to cersei… (Man, I would love that to play out.)

Raylene:  He will make a move in 3 episodes.

Kristi:  I’m hoping Arya takes him out before then. His storyline is old news for me  

Briana:  I think in his own way, he has been all along. He’s made it known he wants Sansa, he wants Winterfell, he wants the iron throne. And he’s been slowly slithering his way to those goals the entire series. Now when will he actually buck up and do something? Probably never bc I think he’s on Aryas list! I’m surprised he made it through this episode.  (Would there really be any consequences to Arya killing him?  Like, who is going to really be pissed by this?  Well, aside from me?  In the show, would the Vale be super pissed?)

Kent:  Littlefinger is like Andy Dufresne  from Shawshank Redemption.  He knows what he is doing and takes risks when they make sense and present themselves.  I’ll say episode 6 of this season makes a lot of sense for him to try something on a bigger scale.

 

  1.  Will Bronn still be alive by the season 8 premiere of Game of Thrones?  Also, talk about Bronn if you like because he’s awesome.

Chris:  Kent I think we need to coin the Bronnie(Bro-ny?Bronnee?Bronny) and take it back from the my little pony fags. Bronn should definitely be sitting in a castle at series end, sipping mai tai’s and reminiscing about all the times he saved the Lannisters.  (For those who may be interested, Chris and I have discussed a new series with Bronn, Davos, and Jorah.  It was his idea, I love it.  We have talked about it in the podcast, so it’s worth listening to for that alone.)

Jim:  yes..  I think he reunites with Tyrion, and stays around for a little bit…. and yes, he’s  awesome…. the only one to survive a Dokrathi, a sand snake, a dragon, black water bay, numerous whore houses, engagements to princesses, and countless other dangers, and still be standing (I don’t think Bronn gets enough props for being the ultimate survivor.  I know that Sansa, Jon, Mountain, and possibly a few others like the dude from the Brotherhood all could have legit claims, but I vote Bronn.)

Raylene:  Yes I hope so he has survived a lot although I think he’ll switch sides because I think Tyrion will offer him things that Jaime is reluctant to give him  (As long as it doesn’t lead to Dany with Bronn, I’m okay with that.)

Briana:  I LOVE Bronn!! I want him to still be alive in the next season! I’m hoping he will end up back with Tyrion. The Lannisters aren’t holding up their end of the bargain for him anyway. Why stick around when you could be on the side with the dragons with his original friend and probably more likely to get his castle!  (And in the end, it’s really about getting that castle.  Maybe we could get Bronn with Meera at the end?  He could have a castle and a solid lady.)

Kent:  I think the assumption is that with 10 episodes remaining in the franchise, 3 more this season, that the Cersei and Jaime story would wrap up.  The big question is how will Bronn be affected?  Without George RRRRRRRRR Martin to kill him, I am cautiously optimistic that Bronn will be sitting on the Iron Throne by the end of the franchise and smiling.

 

  1.  Did Jaime do the right thing in trying to kill Dany at the end?  Right can mean anything.  It can mean smart. It could be if you were in his situation and you didn’t want your sister getting overthrown and you saw the opportunity, would you take it? It could be a moral decision.  You give me an answer and you explain it.

Chris:  Dumb. If you go by the fact Bronn believed it wasn’t too late to flee 5 minutes earlier he could’ve escaped and not either died or been made a hostage for the second time this series

Jim:  it’s the atom bomb phenomenon…. if you can end the war with one action, saving countless lives, don’t you try?  He was never going to pull it off, based on the scenario, but I understood it, and applauded the effort. Plus Bronn saved him, which probably saved Bronn, so that’s a plus too.. (You get it.)

Raylene:  To him it was a smart move but if it wasn’t for Bronn he’d be ashes so hopefully they both are sinking in the water

Kristi:  I feel like it was a pretty dumb decision actually. She was standing next to a fire breathing dragon. Did he really think that was going to end well!?!

Briana:  For Jaime Lannister, it was the only choice! There is no way in any world, he would sit there and not take an opportunity to take her out. Don’t get me wrong, it was stupid and naive as all hell but it was exactly what Jaime would do.  (It was the only choice!)

Kent:  It was the smart call.  To people who suggest that it’s dumb, my counter question is what happens to Jaime if he doesn’t go for it?  He gets captured, probably killed?  Yeah, so he may as well 50 Kent that shit and die trying to minimize pressure for his sister and kingdom. It’s one of those things where I thing it is easy to say that it’s dumb, but also not having a solution.  I can sit here and shit on everybody’s ideas, but unless I have a counterpoint that has more potential or value, then I don’t really have much.   So my challenge is to anybody who said that it was dumb, if they would present what exactly Jaime should have done along with a realistic outcome.  Yes, he went for her with a big, bad ass dragon there.  In all fairness, did Jaime 100% know whether they have good vision?  If you can take charge at some petulant whiny bitch to say the lives of hundreds, or probably thousands, and try to end it before shit gets so out of hand that everybody loses, you try.  

 

Bonus Deuce

  1.  Who had the best facial reaction this week? (I tried really hard to get the shots that you referred to, but I am sure I missed the mark a few times.)

Chris:  Arya and Brienne during their fight scene. Both of them underestimating each other. Maybe Arya’s when she got kicked in the chest by a giant adult woman a little more than Brienne’s

Jim:  Rickon… I mean Dickon…. both when talking with Bronn, and then seeing the Dragon….  runner up to Jon’s “do you like my cave drawings..  I mean look what the ancients left you to see”.

Raylene:  I say Bronn and Jamie when they see the dragon

Briana:  I’ve got 2. One was Little Fingers face when Bran told him “chaos is a ladder” and let him know that “bitch I don’t need you to tell me you’re a good guy, I know who you are!” And second was Drogon after he got shot with the arrow and that cart was too close to him, so he gave it a shitty look and then crushed it with his tail! Favorite part of the whole episode by the way lol.

Kent:  I’d say when Bronn was kinda mocking Jaime a bit and was unhappy about not getting a castle.  The few Littlefinger moments were gold.  Bronn’s victory smile of shooting the dragon.  I think my favorite was Tyrion watching his brother make a “dumb decision”.  Lots of good ones this week.  

 

  1.  Will we finally get an update on The Hound next episode?

Chris:  yes

Jim:  yes…. he was referenced this episode, and he it moving to where the white walkers are going, so I believe we should have a sighting.  Ps, we are due to see more white walkers and wildlings…. the story has been south focused for too long

Raylene:  A little sneak peek next week and he’ll be featured more in two weeks

Kristi:  I think so. If not next week, soon. They have been speaking of him more often so it seems like time for his return.

Briana:  oh! I hadn’t even thought about where he is! I’ve forgotten what he’s up to after the church was destroyed and he got his revenge. So he is definitely due for an update.

Kent:  Well, if Cersei’s run at the top is soon to come crashing down, as predicted in Hulk Hogan’s theme song “Real American”, then we need Cleganebowl damnit!  I think the Brotherhood is on their way to WInterfell or possibly where Tormund is.  I’m going to say that it waits one more episode.  I hope that I am wrong.  

 

Final Thoughts…..if you have any

Chris:  Awesome episode think we said most of what needed to be said in the podcast. Oh and Kent remember we were talking about when will Bran use Raven’s. I just rewatched the trailer for next episode and he has a whole flock working for him now

Jim:  more a question….  who rides the other two dragons when all three are used?  Also, why did they show The Citadel in the into, but not feature it?

Raylene:  I think Dany is going to get penisy because of her success with this attack and start for a while being like her dad. What happens with the iron bank now that payment isn’t made will they still back ceresi or go with dany. Or will winter start kicking some ass and this silly war for the kingdoms be put on hold

Briana:  I am just really excited to see Cercei’s reaction to what’s happening to her troops. I also am really curious to see how Jaime makes it out of this (if he does). And of course… WHITE WALKERS!! I’m really hoping Dany will get a glimpse of the dead army so she can be like “oh shit! Never mind about that knee, what do we do?” Haha!

Kent:  I don’t think I am ever going to see Gendry, and it pisses me off.  In a weird way, I think I am most looking forward to what Qybern has planned, and same for Littlefinger.  Also, I truly missed Euron doing Euron things this week.  Need more of that man.  Please, do not do a bullshit Jon and Dany love story.  I love this show, but something that lame would absolutely lower it’s overall rating in my mind.  By and large, the romance in this show has been great.  Sam and Gilly, Jon and Ygritte, Tormund and Brienne, Jaime and Cersei, Ramsay and Sansa, Lttlefinger and Catelyn, Tyrion and Shea, Tywin and Shea, Arya and Hot Pie.  They have all worked.  The only one that was truly terrible was Robb and stupid skank who he knocked up and got got.  I can’t remember her name, but Robb was a lousy character anyway.

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The Game of Thrones 9 Deuce – S:7 Ep3 – The Queens Reign Supreme Edition

Every week, I get some volunteers to answer these questions, and sometimes I leave a comment in bold, just for fun.

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  1.  Admit it, you thought Tyrion’s plan to take Casterly Rock was a good one.

Chris:  Jon’s odds are getting better and better

Jim:  I did, however I thought (in error) that they were going to get dragon support….  dragon support would have destroyed Euron’s fleet which she wanted as well.  I still think even if the entire army was there…. they could have won, with much heavier casualties…. the clock is still ticking on Grey Worm

Raylene:  I did think it was a decent plan perhaps they should have sent one of the dragon’s there for the ultimate manpower.

Kristi:  It wasn’t terrible. I would have thought more would go in through the tunnel though.

Kent:  It seemed totally valid at the time.  Cersei seemed vulnerable 2 episodes ago.  My my my, how things have changed.  Lots of life lessons to be learned here.

 

  1.  Who got the better end of the discussion between Jon Snow and Daenerys?  Should Jon have bent the knee to Daenerys?

Chris:  Dany got the better, but Jon came off more reasonable and mature. Go figure

Jim:  Jon did what I expected…. conveyed his point without giving up his position.  It was the right choice, and I believe they will become strong allies, without him bending the knee.  Right now, he got what he wanted and she didn’t, but made headway with an ally.

Raylene:  I think Jon made the right choice not to bend the knee to her since he really doesn’t know how she is as a ruler and only experience he’s had was with the Mad King.  He is making the point that defeating Cersei isn’t the priority now

Kristi:  Jon. He seems to be the only one that is really focusing on the main objective. Kill the Whitewalkers and stay alive. Dany is starting to get on my nerves actually. (Welcome to my point of view.)  He absolutely made the right choice to not bend the knee. They need to work together.

Kent:  Jon did because Dany is busy acting like a petulant child who got her toy taken away, while being raped and chained, but the point remains the same.  She is way too cocky and full of herself at all of the wrong times it seems, at least the past 2-3 seasons, which is when I got off the Dany train.  Jon was the voice of reason, and Davos is an Onion Knight.  Neato.

 

  1.  Where will Jorah Mormont end up next on our TV screens?

Chris:  I can’t wait till his niece kicks his ass

Jim:  I see him ending up with Khaleesi, as expected..  but he may show up on his journey to her running into someone else…. Hound and Arya are travelers who he could run into…

Raylene: He will make his way to Daenery’s since that is where his heart lies  

Kristi:  He will be find Khaleesi

Kent:  I just don’t think that he makes it right back to Dany immediately.  I think Jim is on to something, and I think him meeting up with the Brotherhood would make for a great time.  2 of my favorites having a scene would be magical.  Fuck Dany and Jon, give me Jorah and Hound.

 

  1.  Has Euron Greyjoy become the most entertaining character on the show this season (Just for this season, not all time.)?

Chris:  Euron  is awesome and badass, but I still think I would rather watch the power trio Davos, Jorah, and Bronn road trip split off we talked about the other night  (I would give HBO $50 for a full episode of that.)

Jim:  “All this excitement is getting me hard”. (Great line.) Yes, he is fun, but I still enjoy Bronn and just caught a glimpse of him, so tbd…. and I still stand by my Cersei/Jaime/Euron death chart….  I see him offing Jaime, them the jilted lover Cersei offing him..  

Raylene:  I have to admit yes he has. Hopefully we will see and hear more from Bronn since we saw him with Jamie

Kristi:  Nope. My favorite is the dragons. I know they haven’t been on too much or done anything significant yet but it brings me joy every time they are on.  (Yeah, I don’t know anybody who doesn’t get some pleasure from seeing the dragons.  They are so delightful.)

Kent:  Of course he is.  Nobody else has made you laugh more this season than Euron.  Wait, has anybody even made us laugh?  Euron is an 80’s wrestling heel brought to life in Game of Thrones.  Ravishing Rick Rude would love this guy.

 

  1.  If Bran can see everything, why isn’t he warning Sansa about Littlefinger?

Chris:  He sees what he looks for. If he isn’t actively looking at/for something he is unaware of it

Jim: He is too busy watching sister hate porn?  (Too soon?). (Never too soon for hate porn references in these lurid blogs.)  Maybe he already sees it play out, and doesn’t need to intervene….

Raylene:  Perhaps Littlefinger is going to die so Bran doesn’t see the point to warn Sansa (Interesting..)

Kristi: That would be too easy.

Kent:  I think Bran has seen it, but is also aware that things have to play out a certain way in order for the other stuff to happen.  I really do think that in the books, at the very least, we will find out that Bran knew but chose not to intervene.

 

  1.  Bronn is back! (YAAAAAAAY!!!!) Will Jaime/Cersei reward him with Highgarden (Olenna’s place)?

Chris:  No. Sam’s dad, Bronn’s liege is getting it

Jim:  I could see that, but not till after they try and take back Casterly Rock, which I’m not sure will be as easy as they think..  but he deserves it, after giving up a lordship to help Jaime in the first place.

Raylene: That or they will give him Casterely Rock if it’s taken back

Kent:  Unfortunately, Tarley will probably get it, but I will say Bronn gets it and then they give Tarley Casterly Rock, just to be different.

 

  1.  Did the writers intentionally dumb down Daenerys and her efforts to get the throne in order to make Cersei look better/smarter?

Chris:  No. She had so many advantages if it played out realistically it would have been over in 2 episodes

Jim: no, we have just had a longer history of Cersei’s schemes to see how conniving she is, so her Casterly Rock/HighGarden move is just another in a long history of her moves.  Daenerys still needs to take her leadership lumps per say to get her feet under her.

Raylene:  I think they are showing the years of listening and watching Tywin. Dany is still wet behind the ears with war. The age difference is on Cersei side here

Kristi:  Cersei is better and smarter. She has a lifetime of this behind her. I obviously want Dany to win but she isn’t as seasoned as Cersei when it comes to war.

Kent:  Dany is smarter than this, so I say they dumbed her character down.  Yes, we know that Cersei learned from Tywin, but I mean, it’s not like Dany couldn’t have systematically conquered rather than dividing people up.  Her advisors should have known better.  If Jorah or Ser Berristan or whatever the old guy’s name was who got killed by the Harpies, they would have been more helpful.

 

  1.  Do you even feel sorry for Ellaria Sand’s daughter, Tyene, after getting poisoned by Cersei?

Chris:  No, but I felt bad for Bronn

Jim:  I feel bad, but she earned it….  if you mess with someone’s kid, bad things happen eventually.

Raylene:  No because unfortunately the sins of the mother’s the daughters have paid the ultimate price.

Kristi: I did feel sorry her.

Kent:  I can’t top or argue Chris’ point.  I didn’t feel bad.  This all goes back to if Oberyn had not been so damn cocky and finished the Mountain, none of this has to happen.  No, it’s not Ellaria or Tyene’s false, but that’s the crux of the issue.  Cersei was justified.

 

  1.  Melisandre and Varys had a small conversation, but it sounds like bad news for Varys.  Assuming that he is to die, who do you think will kill him?

Chris:  Littlefinger

Jim:  Littlefinger…. just a hunch…. no basis to go by, but I felt they were two of the same when they shared the screen in the first season or two, and I always thought they couldn’t share they same space forever.

Raylene:  I think a white walker will get him

Kent:  Why not Qybern?  That dude is all kinds of crafty and got Pycell killed.  That’s my pick, but Cersei seems more likely.

 

Bonus Deuce

  1.  If you have a favorite quote or scene from Olenna Tyrell, please write it down.

Chris:  You will serve the cheese when I say to serve the cheese!

Jim: “you are in the presence of Daenerys (insert title here)..”. “This is Jon Snow”

Had to add it…. first thing I saw after I watched the episode

Raylene:  You’re not in your sanctuary now, my dear.  All i have to do is whistle and my men will stroll in here and bash you about until I tell them to stop

Kristi:  He really was a cunt, wasn’t he?—on Joffrey

Kent:  Kristi did the one I wanted.  Here’s a solid list.

 

  1.  What one thing will you remember from this episode above all else?

Chris:  Cersei’s revenge on Ellaria. I know what Kent’s will be

Jim: Who knew just cutting off stonescale and putting on an ointment was the miraculous cure for this disease that we have never known of..

Raylene:  Jon and Davos reaction to when they first saw the dragons

Kristi:  The look on Jon’s face when the dragon flew over him. That was awesome! I had to rewind it to watch it again.

Kent:  Davos trying to do a regal job of pronouncing Jon’s accomplishments, and of course the finger in the bum line.  Grey Worm’s realization was also really well done.

 

Final Thoughts (An opportunity to hit on anything that I missed with my questions, or to make predictions, complain, or celebrate the episode.)

Chris:  Euron and Jaime is going to be a fun deathmatch

Jim:  *pour drink on floor for Olenna*. She was one of my favorites, and I loved that she killed Joeffrey and owned it in her death scene…. was a great last word and middle finger to Cersei…. and again, nothing that happened changes my Euron/Jaime/Cersei death triangle…. especially with Euron stirring the pot by asking Jaime inbred sex tips!

Raylene: Jamie kills Cersei  

Kent:  We discover that Arya was the girl that interrupted Cersei and Jaime.  I love the theory and I can’t take credit for it.

 

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The Game of Thrones 9 Deuce – S:7 Ep2 – The Return of Hot Pie Edition

While the season premiere was an absolute delight, I think this episode truly kicked off the season, in my mind.  If you are new to 9 Deuce, the idea is a simple one.  I ask 9 questions relevant to the episode and 2 bonus questions that are about Game of Thrones in general.  Every week, I get some volunteers to answer these questions, and sometimes I leave a comment in bold, just for fun.

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  1.  Do you think that there is any way for Theon to redeem himself moving forward?

Chris:  I can’t see any way for him to. I wonder if he and Bran will meet this season  (Fingers crossed.)

Jim:  truthfully no…. I felt it was a slight reach for him to redeem himself in the Sansa story line…. he pushed a girl off a balcony when she was focused elsewhere…. not the stuff of legends…. this time he’s let his natural sister down twice (once while in captivity), and I think there is no going back to what was…. I still think he dies this season, but it may now be his sister who does it.  (I don’t know, pushing her off a balcony was borderline legendary.)

Raylene:  I see no way he can when it comes right down to a battle he ends up going back to his torture days from Ramsay I am surprised he hasn’t gotten killed already.  (Shame that he isn’t dead.)

Kent:  Sure, if he finds Gendry and gets him on the Iron Throne.  Aside from that, hell no.

 

  1.  Will Jon bend at the knee to appease Dany?

Chris:  If anyone would if would be Jon. Which could cause friction in the north. I don’t think he will

Jim:  I don’t believe he will bend at the knee, however he will show her respect and convince her of their mutual goals allowing for a free north provided he agrees to allow her southern reign uncontested..  

Raylene:  I don’t think he will bend the knee for her. I do think he will be a respectable guest in her castle for that is in his nature.

Kent:  This one intrigues me.  I’m going to say that he will not bend at the knee, but I’m only 65% sure of this one.  He’s got a lot of pride and is short on common sense at times.  Still, he’s entering unknown territory for him, so he may just due to being outnumbered.

 

  1.  If you could save either Yara or Ellaria at this point in time, who would it be?

Chris:  Allyria’s daughter, so we can get Bronn a booty call this season  (Best response possible.)

Jim:  easy…. Ellaria…. with her fleet decimated, Yara has nothing left to offer.  I believe Theon will try, in failure…

Raylene: I would save Ellaria for she definitely has more of a fight skill set and very seductive ways of fighting even though her fighting is mainly based on emotions not thought.   

Kent:  Ellaria has more theoretical power, so going with her.

 

  1.  Has Euron accomplished enough to warrant Cersei’s hand(s) in marriage?

Chris:  Nope. Would that stop her from banging him? Probably not

Jim:  marriage no, however I see them hooking up and working together, but never get the chance to wed…. still hold firm to my prediction that as they begin down this road…. Euron kills Jaime, and Cersei kills Euron.

Raylene:  No he has not warranted a marriage but has done enough to get her attention perhaps a little sexual chocolate.

Kent:  Sure.  I’m guessing she hasn’t had any D in some time, so why not just go with some crazy dude who has a hell of a track record?  Plus, don’t you get the feeling that she may want to make Jaime jealous?

 

  1.  Was Jon being a tad mean to Littlefinger, based on his knowledge?  Please take out what we as fans know, and just consider Jon’s perspective.

Chris:  This old(ish) dude who sold his sister to the Boltons just told him he wanted to bang her like he wanted to bang the woman who made Jon’s life hell. Probably warranted (I’m really glad that we are bringing “Bang” back to the forefront of the conversation.)

Jim:  it’s tough to say how much he knows about Littlefinger deeds, but I think her does know that Littlefinger sold Sansa to the Boltons, and he seems generally slimy..  so no, I I think it was a warranted warning.

Raylene:  I think Jon got defensive because he knows that Littlefinger left her there with Ramsey and the horror she faced.

Kent:  Yes, I would say so.  Littlefinger allowed Jon to live and rule by coming to his aide at the Battle of the Bastards.  A little bit of social decorum could go a long way for Jon.  Plus Sansa secretly enjoyed being with Ramsay.  That whole 50 Shades mentality.  Believe that.

 

  1.  Was it really that big of a deal that it was 4 women and a midget plotting a course of action to take the throne?

Chris:  No. Kudos to diversity

Jim:  not particularly…. it goes to highlight that the path of Daenerys has not gone the normal or expected route…. really, unless you read the books, did anyone see Tyrion working with her?

Raylene:  At the time their plan seemed to be a reasonable one but now It seems they may need to draw the Lannisters to Casterly Rock and take them out there.

Kent:  No, it seemed perfectly normal, until I watched the after the episode thing and they wanted to practically suck each other off over the diversity.  Seriously, get over yourselves.

 

  1.  Out of all of the strategies presented in that room, such as Olenna suggesting that Dany be a dragon, vs Dany not wanting to leave the city in ashes, whose philosophy do you most agree with?

Chris:  Olenna got her entire family massacred, probably not a good idea to follow her decisions. Go Tyrion! (I’m still mourning her husband.)

Jim:  if she leaves it all in ashes, she will be painted with the same brush as the mad king, and being the benevolent ruler forced an uprising of the masters last season…. weak answer but I say a push…. pick the areas to bring the hellfire and pick the areas to work with the other kingdoms (like the north)  

Raylene:  At first I wanted to see it all burn to the ground (Nickelback) but now Dany needs to separate the Lannisters troops to whittle them down (Really? Nickelback?)

Kent:  Just burn what you need in order to take over.  This seems very simple, but now Dany has dicked around so much that Qybern has a ballista to do work.  Dany is such a dumbass.  Olenna should be doing something more important.

 

  1.  Is this the last that we will see of Nymeria (Arya’s direwolf)?

Chris:  No, but how will she return

Jim:  I don’t think so…. I can see a return in the woods as Arya gets into trouble…. bringing the wolf pack as well (hopefully they don’t get blackout drunk..  that’s been done before)  (I miss the NWO Wolfpack.)

Raylene:  Yes I think sadly it is because she didn’t seem to recognize Arya anymore

Kent:  I have a feeling that it may be the last time since they seem to be avoiding the book stuff.  I hope that I am wrong, but time is a commodity that this show is lacking.  Seriously, why are they pushing this so fast?  It’s such a hit, why isn’t HBO simply telling them to draw this out longer?

 

  1.  What interests you more: Melisandre’s role in Dany’s plot or Sansa ruling the north while Jon is away?

 

Chris:  Sansa, mostly because like I said in the podcast, it would be nice to see one person rise above the pettiness and greed (Damnit Chris, this is Game of Thrones!  We need pettiness and greed.)

Jim:  Sansa…. this is where we see what Littlefinger does, and if he ends with the north and moves to Cersei..  or plays both for the win…. though I like the idea of Jon and Danny meeting (family reunion) Sansa Littlefinger is more intriguing. (It is intriguing, but I’m still having some issues putting the pieces together as to how it all fits together.)

Raylene:  Melisandre’s role because I am curious to see if Jon lives to his word I believe he said he’d kill her on sight

Kent:  Melisandre because in the battle of the gingers, Mel has gotten nude for us, while Sansa has been a prude.  Yup, my reasons are flawed.

 

Bonus Deuce

  1.  Do you think that Grey Worm will be successful in his attack on Casterly Rock?

Chris:  Yes

Jim:  until I saw the sex scene I woulda said yes…. but now though they will be successful taking Casterly Rock, he won’t leave alive (horror code) (The fear is real.)

Raylene:  I would say no I believe Grey worm will come to his demise.

Kent:  Grey Worm has been such a big part of the story, but then the sex scene.  Damnit, they are really mindfucking me.  I say that he returns to Missendei. Although if Jon and Dany join forces, Jon is a leader, but will the unsullied get a new leader or just follow Jon?  Man, now I am worried for Grey Worm as his role is no longer as big with all of these forces joining.

 

  1.  We got Hot Pie back.  Will we get Gendry back at some point this season?

Chris:  Sorry Kent but no (Boooooooooooooo)

Jim:  yes…. the longest tease in the show.  You say the north remembers, well so does the viewers…. every blog,chat room, fanboy/girl etc is mentioning him…. he will be back in some capacity, or at least his story closed.

Raylene:  I would hope so

Kent:  I don’t like Chris’ response.  He’s also probably right.  If it happens, just know that the shouts of joy will be coming from this bald bastard.

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The Game of Thrones 9 Deuce – S:7 Ep:1 – The Two Good Hands Edition

Here we are, the season 7 premiere of Game of Thrones, and finally this website is doing a blog on it.  About damn time!  If you are new to 9 Deuce, the idea is a simple one.  I ask 9 questions relevant to the episode and 2 bonus questions that are about Game of Thrones in general.  Every week, I get some volunteers to answer these questions, and sometimes I leave a comment in bold, just for fun.  

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  1.  We have seen Arya take out Walder Frey and a good chunk of his men.  We have seen Jon battle countless enemies. We have seen some of Bran’s powers.  We have seen Sansa’s intelligence and resilience.  We have seen Robb be an utter moron, and we barely ever saw Rickon.  By the end of the show, which of the Stark children, Jon included, will be responsible for the most deaths?

Chris:  Well Jon isn’t a Stark so he shouldn’t count. We can probably blame Robb or Bran. All of the deaths caused by Robb’s failures or Bran allowing the Night King to find the Greenseer and move South of the wall can be blamed on them.  (I must disagree.  Adopted children are treated as family.  Plus he’s Lyanna’s son, which makes him a Stark.)

Jim:  I’ve always stated once I saw Bran’s powers, I felt he would be a killer.  I have long held the belief that he will take control of the dragon(s), and will rain fire from the sky.  Though Jon and Arya have a sizable death toll head start, a dragon can make up for that in no time.  (Bran’s powers are the ultimate game changer, but it’s a matter of what scale he uses it.  If the dragons are controlled by others, that would make a huge difference.

Raylene:  I say Arya will now that she has fully grasped the power of the faceless men  (We need people keeping track of these stats.)

Kristi:  This is a tough one. I see Jon doing some serious damage but I think Bran’s powers are really going to come into play season.  (You’d hope that Bran starts doing something.  I wish he would have learned more on how to properly use his powers.  Much like Luke could have utilized more time training with Yoda, same goes for Bran.)

Kent:  I really wish this show had more seasons to flesh out a longer term story.  Yeah, I could easily watch this for 12 seasons.  Arya wants to have the highest kill count but I put her at 4th.  If my guess is right, Sansa will be on the Iron Throne by the end of this show and she will have been behind some kill numbers, and she would be first if we had 2 more full seasons, but for now, let’s put her in 3rd.  Jon is a total bad ass, but he can’t beat the potential of Bran’s utter devastation.

 

  1.  Do you think that Cersei will spread herself too thin, or will she go after one target at a time?

Chris:  She dies this season(prediction). Too many enemies, not enough friends. One of the things they mentioned in extras but not during the finale last season is that Dorne was helping Daenerys in transporting her armies over the seas. That puts the 2 closest enemies to her allied against her. In the books Euron had a horn that was supposed to control dragons, which is why he thought he could take her. Not showing that until now would be a huge deus ex fucking machines at this point.  (Uhmmm, what was the actual answer to the question?  Thanks for all of the extra info at the very least! Also, thank you for actually spelling Dany’s name right.  It’s one of the things I have been dreading about this blog, the spelling for some of these names are truly annoying.  The horn intrigues me.)

Jim: sounds like a cop out, but both…. I can see her trying for the east (Littlefinger) but being exposed to the south (Daenerys ). She is allying with the west (Euron) but I don’t see her going north to Winterfell with winter upon us. (Total cop out.  Shame!)

Raylene:  I feel she will go after one target at a time in the process trying to gain allies and when she takes the targets out just making the followers submit to her or die.  (So she’s basically Puff Daddy with Vote or Die?)

Kristi:  I sure hope so. I am anxiously awaiting her death. I think she is way too confident in herself and that will ultimately lead her to go after more than she is really prepared for.  (Her confidence is throwing me off.  She’s among the smartest characters on the show, so it’s one of the more interesting subplots for me.)

Kent:  Oddly enough, I think due to her lack of allies and resources, she will be forced to go one target at a time.  She knows that Euron is heading south somewhere to do some work.  That leaves us for the inevitable Stark vs Lannister fight that’s coming.  If she had more, she would be spread too thin trying to be overly aggressive.

 

  1.  What or who do you think Euron Greyjoy is going for as his gift to the queen?

Chris:  Tyrion

Jim:  I believe his goal is to bring Tyrion, but he may bring Arya instead since her can get her without an army..

Raylene:  Gendry will be his gift to her since he is King Robert’s son.  (Does Euron know of his existence?  I hope so.)

Kent:  Tyrion seems too obvious.  This late in the show, it’s about getting it right more than the surprises.  I may have spent more time thinking about this question than any others.  Aside from Tyrion here are the other possibilities that I have: Varys, Missandei, Dario, , Arya, Olenna, or Jorah.  It’s a matter of if he gets the target that he’s after or if he may get something on his way back after being unsuccessful.  Dario is my pick, but Arya is my back up as that could lead to Arya’s continued carnage.  My final guess is The Hound.  He’s well known and this could also tie in with not only Arya, but Clegane Bowl.

 

  1.  Will Littlefinger’s plan ever come to fruition this season?

Chris:  He wants to bang Sansa and he wants to be king. He won’t blatantly disrupt shit until the field is narrowed down some. Expect his treachery next season.  (Do you think it will wait out til next season?  That’s my biggest gripe this season is that I fear too many things will happen too fast instead of the usual pace.  It’s tough to figure out how much they will try to fit in next season when shit should be going crazy. Also, thanks for saying bang.  It doesn’t get said enough in these blogs.)

Jim:  I don’t know his plan, but he will certainly try for total domination.  He will try and upset the north (Sansa vs Jon) and I believe he will succeed with that, however I can’t see his next move…. unless he tries to ally with both the north and Cersei.  (I hadn’t considered the Cersei thing.  That would be a fascinating play.  I have my doubts, but I like it.)

Raylene:  I believe he will succeed in marrying Sansa and when she becomes the queen, boom he’s where he’s always wanted to be.  (Freezing his nuts off up North?)

Kent:  Yes, Littlefinger has been too great of a character to not get a chance on the throne.  It will also finally allow for Sansa’s redemption.  Hopefully he gets to plow her first though because I haven’t said anything lewd yet, and guys who have been watching have her on the top of the “hopefully they show her nude”” GoT list.

 

  1.  Who’s the better choice for leader of the North: Jon or Sansa, and why?

Chris:  A lot for me is going to depend on what happens when Jon and Dany meet. He is supposed to be Azor Azai and one of the heads of the dragon (according to Melisandre and Pyat Pyor). He is also not the rightful Stark ruler by birth, as his mother was Nedd’s younger sister. However, one of the big scenes in the book left out of the show, was when Robb made Jon his heir. Caitlyn and Robb had a huge fight, but Robb made Jon his heir if he died (before he found out about his baby). I always wondered if that was going to factor in someday, and if it had happened it wouldn’t have mattered that he wasn’t a Stark. Back to your original question, Sansa would make smarter deciaion, Jon would earn loyalty faster. They need to work together. However, if you asked who is the best leader for the north and opened it up to anyone, the answer undoubtedly is little Lady Mormont. (I absolutely avoided reading people’s responses before writing my own initially, and was happy at your Lady Mormont point.  I totally concur.  I didn’t know about Jon being Robb’s heir, so this is why I enjoy this blog.)

Jim:  Jon is better, because Sansa is not a natural leader…. however I believe with Littlefinger’s help she will try. (That’s my hope.)

Raylene:  Jon is a better leader he has more experience in every aspect of things and has that dragon blood in him (Can’t forget the dragon blood.)

Kristi:  Jon. He has more experience in the fighting world. She has certainly been through some shit but as a leader, I think Jon is the better choice. I see them uniting and making it happen together though. (The whole thing about him being a good fighter wouldn’t normally mean too much, but with how shit is about to go down, there’s a part of me that wants the best fighter as my leader.)

Kent:  Both have big time flaws, but so has everybody else that’s held the throne so far, except for Cersei…so far.  Jon learned too much from Ned and Ned wasn’t a great leader either.  Sansa has really awful luck and yes, that counts as a reason.  Sansa has more to prove in her mind, and she would make a better ruler.  The true answer is Lady Mormont, and whoever wrote this question should do a walk of shame.

 

  1.  Do you think somebody will betray the North from within this season?  If so, who?

Chris:  No

Jim: Sansa…. she will try and leverage the houses who were against the two houses (Allie tee and Caster I believe) from keeping their land and title.

Raylene:  No

Kristi:  No

Kent:  Yeah, Sansa is going to take what’s hers and it will be perceived as betrayal while Jon and Davos are off getting some dragon glass.  Then maybe Sansa could get Melisandre to help her and Littlefinger.  Not enough episodes remain for all of my wild theories to happen.

 

  1.  Will Jorah ever find a cure for his Greyscale, possibly with the help of Samwell?

Chris:  If he doesn’t it would be a shitty character arc for him.

Jim:  it was a big surprise to find him in Oldtown… and I do think Sam will find a way to heal him, but it may be doom for Sam as he keeps entering the forbidden library.. (Good point about Sam continuing to enter the forbidden library.  Do we know the punishment for doing so?)

Raylene:  Yes I believe Sam will be able to help save him so he can ultimately return to Dany. (I have wondered if he got healed, if he would be a helpful bridge between the North and Dany’s army, with Jorah being a Mormont, or if that would actually hinder things.)

Kristi:  I think Sam will come up with something.  

Kent:  I say no.  I have another wild theory.  In episode 5 of last season, the Hodor episode, we saw how the Children create the Night King.  I am hoping that Samwell uncovers a method to do something to make Jorah into a bad ass soldier to help battle winter.  Also, Jorah and Davos both seem like characters that have long seemed like characters destined to die via some sacrifice.

 

  1.  The Hound and the Brotherhood Without Banners seem to have a purpose, but also seem to be wandering.  What purpose will they serve and will The Hound ever become a believer in the God of Light?

Chris:  I think Sandor and Gregor will be a kick-ass fight when the Hound has to face his Franken-zombie brother. Maybe he’ll save Arya or Sansa before dying to complete his redemption arc (If Clegane Bowl doesn’t happen, something in my room is getting punched.)

Jim:  I don’t know that the hound will ever believe, especially with his fear of fire.  I do believe they are being called to fight the night king, and their path will take them there.. (Reading around the internet a bit, it seemed like a lot of people considered it a foregone conclusion that Hound was a believer, but I am skeptical, due to  that fear.  Every giant has a weakness.)

Raylene:  I think you will see the brotherhood re-erecting someone to help fight against white walkers or Ceresi Army. I think the hound believes he does exist since he just saw things in the fire already. Once either he’s resurrected or witnesses someone then he’ll be a true follower.  (Fixed)

Kent:  I don’t know, but it leads to King’s Landing and to Clegane Bowl.  It is the one big fan service that they can offer us, well that and Gendry.  I can see Mountain winning and then the Hound getting resurrected by the dude, Dondarian or is it the other guy?  Soooo many names!

 

  1.  Dany is finally home.  What should be her first strategic move?

Chris: Link up with Dorne. Ally with Olenna Tyrell. Get the Dothraki off of ships and onto land. Realize that her dragons need to fight the white walkers and not other humans.  (Now I am curious what her second strategic move would  be.)

Jim:  I believe she will go right for Kings Landing, and with Cersei focusing on lesser enemies, she shouldn’t have a difficult time taking it… (Jim, have you been watching the same show that I have?  Dany will dick around, waste numerous episodes getting swept up in some stupid female drama instead of just doing the obvious.)

Raylene:  Dany needs to make allies with the north and I believe that will happen when Jon comes to her for the dragon glass mountain to fight the Night King  (Why would they suddenly be friends?  Do you think Jon will be cool being subservient to Dany?)

Kent:  Strategy and Dany never seem to mix.  We have all seen the Lyanna meme and it’s true.  Lyanna would have won this whole thing by now with 3 dragons.  Seriously, if Dany goes to King’s Landing at any point over the past 2 seasons, she could have just taken it as they weren’t prepared for such an onslaught.  My guess is avenging whatever happens to whomever via Euron.  She may go for the Riverlands.  Nobody is really owning that anymore.

Bonus Deuce

  1.  We saw Ed Sheeran appear as a guest this episode.  Name somebody who you would like to see show up for one episode in a small appearance.

Chris:  Michelle Fairly as Lady Stoneheart  (As soon as I grow a full head of hair, then Lady Stoneheart will appear.)

Jim:  I want the Beibs to get stabbed..  I liked Ed Sheeran’s appearance, and am curious if he has more to play, or is a one off.  (Sounds like it’s a simple one off to give us a new song about Tyrion. )

Raylene:  David Morriesey or Mark Boone Junior

Kristi: Charlie Hunnam! I miss him. (This is hilarious to me.  I was talking to Raylene and I said, maybe I’ll put Charlie Hunnam on here, and she told me that you already had.)

Kent:  Sean Connery, Michael Rooker, Ron Perlman, Gordon Ramsay (Like somebody insulting his cooking would be great), Braun Strowman, Dr Dre

  1.  Name 3 characters that you want to see die this season.

Chris:  Cersei, Allyria Sand, Euron Greyjoy  (Do you dislike Allyria, or is it more to do with her having a cool death?)

Jim:  Jaime Lannister (via Euron) Euron (via Cersei) and Theon (somehow) (Why Jaime?  Not a fan, or to simply move the plot along?)

Raylene: Robin Arryn, Theon and Yara  (Really surprised nobody else chose Robin.  I thought that kid was universally hated.)

Kristi:  Cersei is the only one that comes to mind. (Man, a lot of you want Cersei dead.  I personally think that she is great and provided us with many great scenes.  Still, her death could be one of the biggest in the show.  I hope they do it well.)

Kent:  Brienne because she’s obnoxious, Dany because she should have had her shit together by now, and Euron because, although I enjoy him, his death could be fun as hell.  Oh, and fuck Theon.

 

Final thoughts on the episode (if you have any)

Chris:  Probably one of the best season openers. None of the storylines were neglected.  (Gendry disagrees, as does Melisandre)  We get the awesome opening with Arya and the Freys. We get the feels being felt with the cinematography, music, and anticipation of the ending on Dragonstone. Sam’s scenes did a great job of showing the monotony of his existence in Old Town. I loved Jaime and Euron’s interplay in the throne room. I would actually love a more Jaime centric episode this season as I think he is finally realizing how insane his sister is. Jon and Sansa’s scenes were very good too, I like the dynamic the 2 of them have together (You have to be smarter than them; by listening to you? Would that be so horrible?). I got hit in the feels when Thoros helped the Hound bury the family in the snow storm. About the only scene I wasn’t sure about was the one with Arya and Ed Sheeran. I wasn’t  sure if we were supposed to be worried for Arya alone with all of those dudes, or of we were supposed to be getting another glimpse of just how super shitty it was to be a commoner in Westeros. I felt on edge kind of like the scene in the basement bar in Inglourious Basterds (Props for Inglorious shout out!)

Jim:  A necessary evil putting the pieces in place.  Was good, however slow and plotting…. can’t wait to see how it all shakes out.

Raylene:  Yes it was a good episode I want to see more Arya   

Kent:  It’s funny that people basically universally have their lips proverbially wrapped around Game of Thrones shaft, but when Walking Dead does something like this where they are setting the stage for what’s coming, it gets shit on.  Love the double standards.  I really enjoyed this episode, but it also felt like it was wasting time a few times, when time is the most precious commodity for this show due to a lack of it.  There was a huge part of me that wanted Sam’s montage to be set to Easy Street.  I kinda want to make that video without getting sued.

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